Full body apparition? or sloppy hoax?
UPDATE:
The original video in question (the one with the baseball cap wearing ghost) was removed from the P.I.T Crew’s Youtube account. This video was posted in early 2009. The only video available is the recently edited “cowboy” hat video on their YouTube page.
Making it’s way through the internet is this video of a supposed full body apparition of a ghost. The people that captured this are the members of the P.I.T Crew. (Paranormal Investigation Team).
The video is shot by a stationary camera that was pointing at a wall. Within a few seconds we see the “ghost” come in from the right hand side and make it’s way across the frame. A few more seconds later, another “ghost” wearing a cowboy hat comes in from the left hand side and makes it’s way across the frame.
Here is the video in question:
From the beginning I had some reservations on the video that could point out to a hoax. I’m not sure if the team (who are well trained in motion graphics judging by their website and webisodes editing) did this on purpose to gain some status, or if they did not notice that they had recorded themselves.
Let me show you guys what I mean.
1:02 into the footage you can see that a cupboard or shelf is clearly visible. It is illuminated by some light.
1:02 into the footage2 seconds later, we see that a shadow is cast and is blocking the light from illuminating the cupboard. As if some stepped in between the light source and the cupboard.
Light is blocked, casting a shadow of a moving person1 second after that, you see that the person has moved past the light source, illuminating the cupboard once again.
Shadow has moved away in relation to the apparition This tells me that there was a solid object that obstructed the light for a few seconds, while it moved into frame. Indicative of a solid object moving in a planned trajectory.
Now, the “ghost” itself is questionable. The ghost appears to bounce while it walks across. A bouncing motion is more noticeable when someone has a slow and overly dramatic gait. As when someone is marking their footsteps or walking slow to recreate a walk.
Besides the apparition bouncing, there is a more obvious sign that this footage is a hoax.
I was browsing through the P.I.T Crew’s websites (Phantomworxs, MonsterVision TV, PIT Crew site) and noticed one similarity that is shown on the apparition footage. It seems like the team members of the P.I.T Crew have a certain dress style that they always do. T-shirts over long-sleeved shirts (which are usually white) and a hat of some kind. Now take that into consideration for this next analysis.
This frame is about 1 minute and 6 seconds into the footage. You can see the motion blur of a person that is wearing a black T-shirt over a white long-sleeved shirt.
Black T-shirt and a long-sleeve shirt. I think you can make out a hat as wellLet me point out the shirts and hat. I will impose a picture of one of the members of the P.I.T Crew as a reference.
The colored arrows point out the shirts and hat in reference to the motion blurred image. 1 – head/hat 2- black T-shirt 3- white long-sleeved shirtThis to me clearly marks the team member’s high-contrast ensemble.
When the “cowboy ghost” comes into frame, it’s the same person with the same clothes. Except he has a cowboy hat now.
1- shows the face 2- black T-shirt 3-white long-sleeved shirtI believe my analysis to be sound and unbiased. Remember that we here at GhostTheory are skeptical of most evidence that is out there, but we also study it and make decisions based on logic and reason.
This is my interpretation of what I saw on the so-called full body apparition evidence. A lot of blogs out there are passing this as legit evidence of a ghost caught on video. Real evidence or a sloppy hoax?
What do you make out of it?
Written by Javier Ortega - javier@ghosttheory.com
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Good catch, I can’t believe no one slowed this down to seriously analyze before. It’s plain in the still images that something’s up and it’s not the paranormal levels in the room.
The field of Pararesearch is so young, I wish teams wouldn’t ruin it with fake evidence.
Michell,
Thanks. It does clearly point to a hoax. It’s a shame most teams do this to get notoriety.
Thanks for the comment
Good catch Javier!
As soon as I started to watch it and seeing what was happening, my first thought was a slow motion effect. Especially on the ‘cowboy’, you could clearly see the light illuminate the face (which then you had already pointed out later in the article). This is an obvious fake…
I think it is a bit humoress that they actually did this and thought they could gain something from it. Being paranormal reserachers, they should be aware of how heavily evidence is scrutinized on the web, not to mention how damning this type of trickery actually is the the paranormal community.
Shame shame shame…
Gary P,
Always a pleasure reading your comments.
It’s pretty clear that this is a hoax. Why other blogs do not see it and pass this off as actual evidence is beyond me.
It’s disappointing coming across videos like these. We want to examine the ones that come from real investigators who put all their passion into the field, rather than people who think they can make a quick buck.
You’re right, shame shame shame….
hmm. i dont know. i see what you are saying but am i seeing that because you put that thought into my head? i dont see clothes of any kind. the pit crew are pretty well known in the myrtle beach area and im not sure why they would fake something. they ARE non profit.
personally i believe the video. any vido can be over analyzed like you did to pursuade others to believe it to be fake.
John,
Appreciate your input. We here are a bit more skeptical about video’s that surface throughout the internet. We sit and try to analyze the video to find a source or a logical answer. I personally think on this video we did a good job but again this is our opinion on the video. We just do not accept every so-called video to be a true haunting or sighting.
Hello Javier- I have examined your evidence as to why you believe this video is a sloppy hoax and I have a few questions.
The apparition seems to be totally transparent. How is this possible? I did see trails omitting from this apparition that remain on the screen after it passes. How does one create that effect? Wouldn’t there also be a shadow on the back wall if the man in question were where you have placed him in the shot? I am also curious as to why you haven’t discussed the actual “cowboy-looking” apparition itself. It is quite clear in the center of the screen. I look forward to your response and thank you!
Princess210,
The transparent ghost effect is quite simple actually. I’ve worked in a production studio for a few years back in 2000-2002 and know how easy it is to superimpose two footage and splicing it together to make one of them transparent. Really elementary work. Creating a motion blur gives it that “ghostly trail”. It also helps hide the details on the figure it self.
As for the “cowboy ghost” not emitting a shadow, that one is simple. If you look at the first ghost, it is far away from the camera and closer to the back wall. When you look at the “cowboy ghost” it is coming almost to the camera and further from the back wall. Making it not cast a shadow.
I really didn’t want to discuss anything on the “cowboy ghost” because I did not see the point. It’s obvious that it’s the same person from the first frame with just a hat on. You can even see his white under shirt over his black shirt. Just like the first “ghost”.
By that logic… all videos and audios of paranormal activity are hoaxes.
acidik_delight,
No, not really. We cannot do a sweeping generalization using what I wrote.
It only pertains to this video.
Am I really the only one that sees this video as a hoax, or do most of you think the “cowboy ghost” is real?
This is my opinion of the video, if you guys have any other explanation, or if you guys find any faults in my analysis, I’m really open to them.
Javier-
I personally think you decided this video was a hoax before seriously reviewing the evidence as seen here: “From the beginning I had some reservations on the video that could point out to a hoax. I’m not sure if the team (who are well trained in motion graphics judging by their website and webisodes editing)…”
You clearly state you had made a judgement from the get go. Have you ever critiqued a video that you have considered genuine? If so, could you add the link here please?
Have you ever personally seen a shadow person with your own eyes? I think prior to discounting something as fake/hoax (or real as well) one should have had this experience in the past. How can one judge if they don’t have something to reference it to?
I’m not trying to bust your chops or anything. I am more just clearing my head and posting questions rattling around in my brain.
I’m not sure where you found out that indeed this group is well trained in motion graphic’s based solely on “judging their website and webisodes”(which I did look at). They could have “sourced” that out to a professional so I don’t buy that right now. I also don’t think it’s fair to take that into account without at least contacting them and being 100% certain that is the case.
These guys are non-profit; not out for any monetary gain. This too makes me wonder why make such an effort create a hoax? And yes I have seen my fair share of hoaxes over the last 20 years.
I don’t know Javier. I still like this one for some reason. I have weighed what you have said but I still doubt your thoughts and ideas here. Have you looked at other video’s from the P.I.T. Crew? It just seems to me personally these guys are genuine.
Also, for the record, I live in a documented haunted house and was interviewed by the producer of “A Haunting” from Discovery in Silver Spring, Maryland for filming featuring my home on their show. So, yes, I have witnessed multiple shadow people and apparitions in my lifetime.
Not that my judgement is any better than yours or anything like that, but this is such an accurate account for me I had to speak up.
Thank you for reading my thoughts. I await your response.
Respectfully,
Princess
Princess,
Thanks for the comment. I really don’t mind when people question our posts. Like I mentioned, we are very open minded.
It’s really difficult to say what videos I consider to be legit. There are some that I have considered to be convincing, like the ones listed below:
http://www.ghosttheory.com/interviews/gt-interview-gettysburgs-ghost-video/
http://www.ghosttheory.com/paranormal-cases/the-haunting-of-jackie-hernandez-a-haunting-in-san-pedro-ca/
There are a few others that I consider difficult to debunk.
If you have followed us for awhile, then you would know that I have had a paranormal experience before. So I do have some first hand knowledge of shadows / shadow people and the unexplained.
I mentioned that the P.I.T crew was well versed in motion graphics based on their website design, multiple website and their editing on their footage. Yes, it could be outsourced, but that does not disprove what I said.
As far as them not profiting, yes, they do not charge for investigations. All of the groups I know also do not charge. It’s kind of unethical to do so. I do however see that the P.I.T crew is opening an online store:
http://www.monstervisiontv.com/MERCH.html
Which there is nothing wrong with making money that way, but if they put up DVDs for sale of their investigations, then we can say that they are in it for the money because of that fact that their evidence is questionable at best. So selling a DVD of a “real ghost footage” and then seeing a computer animated ghost is wrong. I hope that is not the case. I’m sure they won’t go that route.
If you feel that these guys are genuine, then that is your prerogative. I too would hope that they are. The problem is that what they have released as proof does not add up. The fact that the “ghost” closely resembles one of the crew’s fashion style makes it more questionable.
Take for example another of their videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o50PN5uOsVI
The ghost in this video appears right on frame and disappears right off the frame. Looking like a cartoonish ghost complete with the white shredded sheet or cloak.
Their videos just seem to “staged” for me.
We just interviews Barry Conrad who was involved in the “San Pedro haunting” case, as well as hundreds of other cases. Him being a professional cameraman for more than 20 years told us himself that he has never caught a full figured apparition. Barry told us that in his hundreds of cases, the phenomenon was too illusive to capture on film.
Of course this does not mean that no one out there could capture a ghost on film, but for a crew to be only a year in the field, they have an abundance of “ghosts videos”
We must always remind open minded, but practice skepticism as well.
We at GhostTheory believe in the supernatural and want to report on legit cases, but when the evidence is clearly too coincidental, then we have to assume that it is fake.
Even GhostHunters, the most popular and accepted paranormal research group, was recently caught faking their evidence.
I don’t want to convince you to change your mind and agree with what I’m saying. I am trying to tell you that a skeptical mind might do us more of a favor in the field.
I hope that answer your questions as to where we are coming from.
Thanks!
you must not have researched these guys very well. monstervisiontv is its own company documenting the investigations the P.I.T> crew do. kind of like ghost hunters is to taps. monstervisiontv is selling monstervisiontv apparel not pit crew apparel. i emailed the guys and they said they have nothing to do with the show other than being the subjects. monstervisiontv runs the site, they dont. phantomworxs inc is the production company spewing out the clips.
i think you are looking into this too much. good for these guys for finding the things they have.
per their email:
“We both have degrees in this field. We both spend our own time and money on what we do. Why we would hire some special effects team to fabricate evidence is beyond me. We are non-profit and we have never even excepted a dime, although its been offered many times. Fact is, you can take any video and pick it a part like this chap has. Doesn’t bother us. It’s all about perception. We know very little in the concrete evidence world about paranormal activity. Personally, we don’t care one way or another if people believe this video, or others, or not. That’s not why we do this.
I don’t know of the guy you are speaking of or his site. Frankly, I don’t care. It actually saddens me a bit to see a chap take so much time to discredit a team dedicated to exposing and documenting paranormal activity. Makes me wonder.
His claims are subjective at best. Clothes? Are you kidding me? He’s seeing what he wants to see. Again, I don’t care. This footage was shot with a mini cam off of a laptop and of course one of our nightvision cams. The quality is horrid. Did this fellow even bother to watch the other clip taken in the same room? What is his explanation on that?
Yes, hoaxes are a big problem in this field. It certainly doesn’t help its credibility. But all hoaxes have a root, and the root is planted in the want and desire for capital gain. Our roots are planted differently.
Don’t let this stuff get to you friend. In this field we must learn to except the skeptics. We are skeptics ourselves. We have nothing to gain by any of this, yet this guys seems to dwell on the fact we do. Personally, I have nothing against what this guy has done. It’s not the first time.”
does that sound like a team who is going to fake stuff????
John ortega,
I don’t know why you or the P.I.T crew would assume that we spend too much time discrediting them. We never even heard of them till the video came out.
We only did one post on them and that was regarding their video that was posted all over the web. So no, we don’t spend our time debunking videos.
As far as the P.I.T’s email to you, It does not prove anything. What does it matter if they have a degree in the field ? I’m not saying that they hired some outside crew to fake their evidence, but I am saying that their evidence is questionable just because of their highly produced motion graphics on their site.
No, I’m not aware on how they operate. I did see that they are affiliated with these other sites: monsterVisionTV Inc. and Phantomworxs Inc.
You’re right, I didn’t do my homework. But that does not matter. I was not trying to tear down the team. I questioned their video. That’s it. I didn’t care enough to spend my time researching the crew, since only their evidence is of importance.
As far as the team’s response:
“His claims are subjective at best. Clothes? Are you kidding me? He’s seeing what he wants to see.”
This is ludicrous. I’m seeing what I want to see? It’s quite clear in their video. Everything matches. If you notice, you can even see the motion blur of the white lettering of their baseball cap. Can you tell me that is not true? Can they?
No matter how many times I see the video, the long sleeve white shirt under the black shirt is so obvious. You can see it clearly when the “cowboy ghost” comes out.
So am I the only one that sees this? this certainly “saddens” me.
I don’t want to be caught in a flame war over this. We focus more on investigative journalism of the paranormal and trying to make sense of media that is being presented to the world as paranormal.
Furthermore I have to ask why is it that you are so partial to the P.I.T crew and their footage? Can it be that you are associated with them? Your IP address 64.150.152.174, comes from a South Carolina hub. Where the P.I.T crew is from.
yes i live in mb, that is how i know them and what they are about. frankly, i’m rather upset that you would post my ip address publicly in an open forum such as this. says a lot about YOU.
im partial because i live here locally, and have known of them. you see one clip and start discrediting what they do, whether you spell it out or not, that is what you are doing AND you spent a lot of time doing it. their other clips so similiar evidence yet you pick this one. explain those?
hoax’s discredit the field for sure, but so does discrediting investigators. its the dutch door affect.
and i looked at the clips you claimed to be authentic. pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase. the shots of the “ghosts” in the woods is CGI all the way. its a simple bleed and im surprised YOU didnt catch that.
be careful who you call out friend.
i get so mad at people who spend so much time discrediting this field like you are doing. what video WILL be proof? to your type their won’t be one. thats what im seeing here.
since you apparently are the know all of how a ghost should look and carry him/herself.
pleeeeeease. i will stick to the guys who actually have a degree in this stuff and spend many man hours doing it. not some dude who has time to pick a part their evidence.
john ortega,
An IP address is not private or public data. It only shows that your connection came from South Carolina. Seems to me like your opinion is a biased one since you are some how connected to the team personally.
As far as the ghosts in the woods video, you obviously did not read the whole post. We interviewed the people who shot the video…..blah…forget it.
John, thanks for your comments, but I do not wish to continue arguing a moot point.
The evidence is there, and speaks volumes.
Thanks!
just because i live here locally and know who they are does not make my opinion bias. it makes my opinion a little more creditable.
seems to me you opened a can of worms you can’t wait to shut.
explain their other clips o great debunker you.
who cares if you interviewed the people from that video. its fake. its a simple cgi bleed technique. knew it as soon as i watched it. zoom in and watch how it moves in and out with the leaves of the trees. pleeeeeeeaaaaase. talk about cartoony. but since you interviewed them you must have a personal tie with them which makes YOU bias, since that is what you are claiming i am since i happen to know who the pit crew are.
there is no moot point here man. dont make claims you are not willing to be called out on.
but im done with this. last word. you can rebuttle, whatever. good luck to you and your site. the fact you give credibility to a cgi video says all i need to hear.
until you can break down all of the pit crews claims and vids, AND IT ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE, well, you are sounding like a jealous girlfriend.
thanks for allowing me to post
one more thing for all the onlookers….
dude you took a picture off of the monster site of one of the guys and super imposed it in photoshop completely missing the point that he was wearing a skull cap during the investigation. dude.
educate yourself on who you are calling frauds before you spend so much time, which apparently you have, on discrediting.
what a way to gain attention to your site.
john ortega,
ok, I’ll reply….
I took that image because that was the only still available.
Now, there is a video of them being in that room in which one of the member of the team is wearing clothing that resembles the “ghost”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq3lqqQwtBk
Of course he is not wearing a hat in that video, but I’m not saying that the superimposed picture I put in with him wearing the hat was what he wore when he faked the evidence. that was just for referencing the clothing. The blur of the ghost is too much to tell if he is wearing a skull cap or hat.
How would you know what they wore during that investigation if in the video you do not see the team members at all? you see them talking about it in their office, but the scene of the actual “haunting” you don’t see the members or what they are wearing. So either you were there helping them out, or you are one of the P.I.T members using the alias “john ortega”.
Or my brother pulling a joke on me….
Now, you say that they do not market or sell anything since there is an outside company, monstervisiontv.com, that catalogs or documents their investigations, right?
well why is monstervisiontv.com registered to Stephen Lancaster? One of they 2 members of P.I.T ? Why would the producers behind monstervisionTV register their company under one of the P.I.T member’s name?
Domain name: MONSTERVISIONTV.COM
Administrative Contact:
lancaster, stephen fingercallous@yahoo.com
Hey Javier, Stephen here. Very nice site you have. It’s clean and professional and informative.
I won’t allow any body to speak for myself.. ..if I’d had known my email was going to be shared publicly, well, I would not have responded to John.
Interesting take you have on our clip. We appreciate all the time and energy spent in helping us debunk a possible apparition.
We were in and out of that particular electrical room all evening as you can see in various clips on youTube.
The website for mvTV is registered in my name because I came up with the name years ago and locked in the domain months and months back. It’s also part of our contract… …that way if monsterVisionTV starts representing us poorly or moving in a direction we do not wish to be a part of, I can pull the plug. It is just an insurance for us as we strive real hard to keep things under our control.
I could easily sit here and pick a part everything you are suggesting because I have all the original footage, 2 cameras worth. But what’s the point really? I was there. Ryan was there. We know what we saw, and we know what we caught. That is all I can say, the rest is up to individual interpretation.
Honestly, we are probably just as skeptical as you. I mean we have to be in this field. I don’t blame you, nor hold it against you for what you have done here. In fact, I endorse actions such as these. It needs to be done. We sat on this footage for weeks, going back to the location and doing everything in our power to try to disproof this. What you see is what you get however as we were unsuccessful in explaining how this could possibly be, without being paranormal. We even debated releasing the footage at all. Its just too damn unbelievable. But we decided to regardless.
Unfortunately, this is just one clip of an 8 night investigation where many other paranormal activities were caught, which only lends more credibility to the clip at hand.
It’s fun on our end watching and reading the various debunking methods (you are not the first). We’ve heard everything from what you are suggesting here, to tv interference, holograms, bugs on the lenses, etc.
It’s like I’ve told other people.. ..if I (we) could generate effects such as these, we are in the wrong damn field.
It’s tough Javier. It’s a paranormal investigators word against the world when it comes to stuff such as this. I think that is part of the difficulty in making this field more substantial.
Again, we appreciate the help on your behalf. Good luck with your site.
Anyways. Thanks again for the help and take care.
Stephen,
Thanks for writing in.
You must understand that we are not against you. We just question all evidence in order to get closer to the truth…if there is one.
At the end of the day, you have your video and your experiences of the actual investigation of the place. We just have the video to go by. So it’s expected that critics will be harsh on the evidence you put forth. Again, I’m not saying that we automatically dismiss all evidence.
Again, this whole thing was just a mess. It could have been handled better. It wasn’t.
As soon as our site and methods were childishly targeted things only got worse. The fact of the matter is that we still stand on our assumptions. Nothing against you or your team. The evidence against your claim is overwhelming in our point of view.
We have our doubts, just like you, but we also have more evidence against your team than you do FOR your team. Everything from the video, to the origins of the last comments to the origins and motives of the monstervision and phantomworx websites.
Of course it’s our word against yours, but we just analyze the evidence and let our readers judge it.
In a time where paranormal groups are lax in their methods or too greedy to hold on to their moral values, we must challenge all evidence.
Thanks for writing in.
Wow Javier.
Just for the record I have never met these fellows and have only become aware of them since the release of this “cowboy” video (and a few others of theirs on You Tube). I am not affiliated in any way.
To save you the trouble of trying to figure out who I am: I am from just outside of Washington, DC in Maryland and please do not post my IP address or e-mail address. Thank you.
I am discouraged to write any more feelings I have towards this video that my name or personal information might be revealed here so I will keep this brief.
I believe this video to be REAL and NOT hoaxed. Oh, and yes, I have seen the video’s you supplied hundreds of times. Ummm, you are entitled to your opinion on those too.
I am sorry you do not see what I see or agree with me. I only speak up if I am truly concerned about what is being stated. I spoke up here because I believe this catch (and the others from this particular investigation) are incredible. I will continue to follow this groups progress. I really like what I see.
Happy ghost hunting to everyone reading this
Respectfully,
Princess
“we also have more evidence against your team than you do FOR your team. Everything from the video, to the origins of the last comments to the origins and motives of the monstervision and phantomworx websites.”
That’s not really a fair statement because you don’t know what we have. We have the footage from start to finish of us walking in, setting up, turning the cameras on, and walking out. Then walking back in to pack up, go to the office and review with the client.
5 hours straight of an isolated room would be damn near impossible to upload and even then it would still be subjective and up for interpretation. Even if we cut all that up into smaller clips, it could still have been manipulated. Basically what I am saying here there is no way to prove anything video related on the internet, which gives a team like us an unfair advantage to the critics.
If someone locally wishes to challenge us, they can sit down with us and watch the footage from start to finish. That would be about the only solid way to validate. But, and not to sound rude, fact of the matter is we don’t care enough about what other people think. It’s not going to affect us one way or another. We keep on keepin’ on.
We have all the footage, the proof, you don’t. You have one clip to examine and that clip was cut and edited to fit the splice and keep viewing interesting.
The last part of your statement there is inappropriate, persuasive, and oozing of assumption. You know nothing of the facts yet are attempting to perceive it that way.
“but for a crew to be only a year in the field, they have an abundance of “ghosts videos””
I have to correct you on this as well. Yes, you are right, as a TEAM we have been involved together for a year. But, before we met, both Ryan and myself were doing this solo. We met, discussed and both realized working together as a team would make the investigations more productive, and efficient and it doubled our equipment between what Ryan and I already had.
What you aren’t seeing are the 80 other investigations we did this past year where nothing was found. Why post any of that? It’s just boring. When we do come across something paranormal, it gets posted.
But anyways Javier, we are going to leave it at that. I hate blogs, I hate the internet in general. For reasons such as these. Again absolutely no hard feelings against you, your site, or your claims. Not at all. That’s just the nature of this business.
Like I said before, we appreciate all the time you took to help us with that particular clip. But, as you know, there isn’t a single video on the internet that can actually be “proven.” So me wasting time on defense, and you wasting time on debunking, is really irrelevant and like I said, wasting time.
We care about our local clients, who know us, watch the evidence with us, and shake our hands at the end of an investigation. That’s it man. The importance of acceptance on the internet is irrelevant to us and I know I’m coming off like a broken record, but with the digital age and the ease of video manipulation, nothing can be taken seriously real or not. If its too good to be true, its fake. If its poor quality its fake. Etc. Etc. Nothing will ever be good enough, so to me, all things internet related are taken with a grain of salt. We have a web presence if folks want to check us out. Nothing more than that.
I apologize if I (we) had anything to do with the bogging up of you site. I don’t approve of such behavior. Good luck to you again my friend.
I will keep checking on your site Javier. If any good did come from this, it exposed me to another site dealing with the paranormal and I can’t lie, the site is informative. Job well done.
Take care.
Stephen and Princess210,
Thank you for your comments.
We are all entitled to our own opinions of course. We welcome any theories or opinions over paranormal evidence or the paranormal itself. It makes for good conversations.
Good luck to you guys, and we hope to see more videos from your team. We are not biased, we just analyze what you show us.
Thank you both for writing in and keeping it professional.
ps: just for the record, we don’t disclose names or private information. Again, an IP address is not geographically precise. We just mentioned the state you were writing from.
This is why I say that if you want to ghost hunt, take your evidence and have it openly validated by a video/photo specialist so as to prove that there was no tampering. This is the first step -every- paranormal investigative group should do. Even with the evidence at hand, I am completely skeptical and as stated, it’s one party’s word against the other. Honestly, the video looks like a slow-mo effect has been added to it, either at the source (as in the camera/software was set for this) or after (I think at the source is easier).
What was that statement someone made “Bad PR is better than no PR”?
“i get so mad at people who spend so much time discrediting this field like you are doing.”
why?
skepticism and debunking should be the norm given the vast amount of chicanery in this field.
“i will stick to the guys who actually have a degree in this stuff and spend many man hours doing it.”
a degree? from which accredited university does someone acquire a degree in ghost hunting and what coursework is involved?
at the very least, i would think being able to debunk and rule out anything NOT paranormal would be fairly high up on the course list.
fwiw, i also do not think that a “cowboy ghost” was captured on this video.
Bellaboo,
I applaud your comment. I’ve been holding back commenting from this thread. Debunking is the first step to proving that a video is authentic or fake. As a paranormal team out there trying to catch that true ghost, this is expected and IF any video were out there of a TRUE ghost then I would definitely want people to try and debunk it.
Wow…all this debate over a pretty insignificant video. It may be real, it may not be real; the only folks who genuinely know are the PIT crew. And, let’s be honest, does anyone expect them to say “Yeah, you caught us, it’s a fake,”?
Now, in my opinion, it doesn’t look authentic. It looks exactly like what Javier said: the work of someone with a decent knowledge of digital and video technology. The two “ghosts” do appear to be wearing the same exact clothing (barring the Stetson)and the whole thing appears to be someone running through the room. Can’t give it the thumbs up.
As far as people screaming that this group is non-profit and they wouldn’t gain anything by faking a video, sure they would. Fame is it’s own reward. They may not make any money investigating, but what about the speaking engagements, convention appearances, book and merchandise deals, etc that come from becoming well known? As much as I like the TAPS crew, I know that at this point they’ve moved beyond their humble beginnings and are raking in some serious cash. I’m sure that a lot of other investigation groups look at Jason and Grant as the ultimate success story and want to get to where TAPS is as quick as possible. Wave potential dollar signs in front of people and they’ll do some pretty strange things.
For the record, I live in Denham Springs, Louisiana and have no connection with any paranormal investigation group. I do however own a proton pack…
talthar,
I feel the same way about the TAPS crew. Oh well.
PS: where can I buy a proton pack?
Ditto
This is still going on? LOL
Hey I SELL proton packs! Any takers?? Just kidding.
No really, I still like this video. I am standing firm on my ground. And I did notice there wasn’t any baseball cap with white writing on it in the video which kind of ruins the comparison of clothes.
Oh well… happy ghost hunting all
Respectfully,
Princess