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Paranormal State – Caught faking entire show

Submitted by Javier Ortega on November 4, 2008 – 12:26 PM382 Comments | 40,658 views



Caught in a web of lies…

So it seems that one of the clients for the “PRS” (Paranormal State) team has come up to expose the PRS team as hoaxers. I’ve written a few articles in the past about how horrible this show really is, and the damage that it inflicts onto the paranormal society.

Below is a long testimony from a former client of the PRS team. Kirby Robinson has brought it upon himself to expose the show and it’s staff. The meticulously wrote an open letter to announce their shenanigans. Read it and make your own decision. This is what we here at GhostTheory have been saying all along… Paranormal state is hoax. Every scene is cleverly edited, every evidence they put forth is questionable. How they manage to keep their ratings up is totally a mystery. With all this trickery and deception, WILL YOU STILL WATCH?

I leave you with Mr. Robinson’s letter:

I’ve had my say, I have presented you with my analysis and research into the conduct of the Paranormal Research Society, Paranormal State, Chip Coffey, Ryan Buell and numerous other para-celebrities who have engaged in acts of deception, distortion, and out and out lies. Now it’s time that you hear it and read it from the mouths of those who have been on the receiving end of those acts.

Kelli states: “[Name removed] referred me to you. My husband and I are not under any legal restraint from telling the truth about what Ryan Buell and Chip Coffey did and what was edited and aired on our episode of A&E’s Paranormal State.

Chip Coffey play acted at being psychic. He was given every bit of information regarding our case and the identity of the ghost of the past-previous owner of our home who died 28 years before we bought our Gold Beach, Oregon home.

I am a medical hypnotherapist and respected medium and psychic with many satisfied clients. We contacted PRS after our ghost, Bill Wells, began asking us for help.

The PRS team represented themselves as being part of Penn State University, which was only the beginning of their deceptions. We initially asked for help because there was some sort of entity in our downstairs hall and adjacent rooms which my own spirit guide warned me from dealing with on my own.”

Kelli and Riley Ryan are a very loving couple who purchased their dream home in Gold Beach, Oregon. Kelli who is a gifted psychic/medium, had established the Hypnotist Center in Merced, California in 1989. She is very accurate within her readings, very comfortable with spiritual communication, and has always embraced her gifts to be of help to others.

After moving in, the couple, along with Kelli’s personal spirit guide, encountered a very pleasant ghost by the name of Bill. Bill was the former owner of the home whose death was tragic, to say the least, that caused much pain for his family, friends, and the entire community of Gold Beach.

Unfortunately, that wasn’t the only entity that had taken up residence in her home. In addition, a very dark and sinister spirit had staked claim to their kitchen and hallway, moving objects at will, turning appliances off and on, frightening their ghost, Bill. The dark entity physically attacked both Kelli and her husband. Her personal spirit guide wisely informed her not to attempt to deal with the dark entity on her own but to get professional help which they did when they contacted PRS seeking such help.

Kelli states: “We made first contact with PRS by email Saturday June 21, 2008. We described all phenomenon and asked if they could help us or refer us to someone who could. We put our trust in PRS because they mention Penn State University so prominently at the beginning of their program. We felt an esteemed university would not want to expose themselves to liability so we thought PRS must be acting responsibly.

We received a phone call from Eric Leven of A&E 10:30AM Pacific Time on Monday, June 23, 2008. He told us that he was making our case a top priority because it was such a compelling story (seeing a headless ghost, all kitchen appliances turning on by themselves, kitchen canister sliding across kitchen counter and falling on the floor, an evil entity in the hallway, being locked in the bathroom, being touched, scratched, bruised, squeezed until I couldn’t breath and a kindly ghost asking for help). Eric Leven asked if we could send documentation that Bill Wells lived in our home and died in an accident. We sent the news article detailing Bill’s accident and funeral along with deeds to show the list of former owners. At Eric Leven’s request we sent photographs of all the areas of our home where the phenomenon occurred regularly with detailed descriptions.”

So the wheels of deception begin to turn.

Kelli states: “On Tuesday, July 1, 2008 Sumit David, Paranormal State Producer, arrived at our home to scout the location, interview us on camera and film all the haunted areas of our home. He toured our haunted house, property, and surrounding forest. He was actually quite frightened by the trees surrounding our home. He indicated they could start filming as early as July 10, 2008.

A&E was very pushy about urging us to contact Jim Gardner, the driver in Bill Wells’ fatal accident. We told them we would try again, but we didn’t want to harass the man. We contacted him shortly after discovering Bill’s identity. The point of us contacting PRS was to get Bill the help he was pleading for. Bill wanted people in the town to know there was no wrongdoing on anyone’s part and, indeed, it was only an accident. He also wanted Jim to know he was happy in heaven and he wanted his friend to be happy and live his life without guilt or sadness. A&E said Ryan Buell was very good at convincing people to take part in their investigations and how his participation would help the healing process.

Sumit David promised us nothing on the show would be done which would be injurious to Bill Wells’ loved ones. Nothing would prove to be farther from the truth than this most heinous lie.”

At this point we will use the episode, The Messenger, which was originally entitled The Headless Haunting. Each scene will be broken down exposing the deception that was occurring. Prior to the beginning of the opening credits, the lies and deception already start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwPNDDRnBv4
The Messenger, Part 1

The shot of Kelli observing a figure dashing past the window was staged. The person doing the dashing is a crewmember.

The photo of the tragic accident that killed Bill was never meant for public viewing. More on that later.

Chip and Ryan seeing something in the hallway and bedroom staged and fake—more on that later.

The case briefing takes place at the Gold Beach Rare Book Room what is interesting here is how secretive PRS is.

Kelli states: “The townspeople called me to tell me they were filming at the bookstore. The filming took place in the Gold Beach Books Rare Book Room. When I chatted with them casually about it they seemed uncomfortable, like they had been caught. They explained these things are secret to keep us from inventing things about our haunting and trying to embellish the story.”

Notice during the briefing that a bored looking Katrina is not taking notes and is simply playing with her small notebook. Why? It’s because she had spent two hours on the phone with Kelli discussing their case. Secondly, notice her at the point that Ryan himself was beginning to merge Bill the ghost and the dark entity into one. They never had any interest in helping the family; they simply sought to develop another sensational storyline. Kelli and her husband had never used the phrase shadow man. That’s of Ryan’s doing.

Kelli states: “Ryan took great pride in coming up with “This shadow man that you see in your home…” He practiced saying “shadow man” in a deeper register than he usually uses and was quite pleased with himself. He requires everyone on his team to worship him and show and express their admiration of him to everyone. Behind his back they express their disdain, but they all want to keep their job. Ben Wolf and Sumit David (director and producer at A&E) kind of laugh about Ryan’s attitude. These A&E and PRS crews were all very chilled here in Gold Beach’s 60-degree weather in July. I offered everyone coffee and hot tea which they loved and kept a sort of comfort canteen which they enjoyed immensely. We keep delicious coffee and 40 varieties of tea and chai, herbal and black. The crews were so grateful and comfortable they confided a great deal about their work experiences with Ryan. They are very young and Riley and I are grandparents who are “cool.” They were too comfy and confided too many secrets about Chip, Ryan and Michelle.”

The walk through is uneventful outside of one very telling scene. Watch Ryan pausing longer than normal to observe himself in the bathroom mirror.

We go to the client interviews with Kelli in the house, and Riley outside the house. Are they factual? And do they show a true photograph of what they were saying? No, not at all.

Kelli states: “They chop-edited everything. KOBI (NBC Station in Medford, OR) is doing a story about Bill writing a book. Bill Kelly, KOBI News Director, and Bob Wise, KOBI Station Manager, saw the episode and showed us all the voice-overs and chop-editing. They could see more editing than the average person and could hear the pieced together dialogue and that it didn’t match the action depicted.

That interview is in our upstairs master suite where we are storing many pieces of extra furniture as we work on our house. I am talking about 2 distinctly different spirits. Bill our kindly ghost asking for help to get a message to his friend, Jim, and the townspeople who misunderstood the reporting of his fatal accident. Bill wanted to set the record straight. The scary, fearful references are regarding an unidentified entity which was causing harm. This is the reason we needed help. We love Bill. Bill protects me from the other entity. Bill saved my life in an identical car crash I survived two weeks after moving in this house. We will email you a copy or you can purchase the tabloid article in the National Examiner 092908 issue in your grocery store tabloid check out display. Ironically, L.A. Justice wrote an accurate account without exaggerating or altering Bill’s story!”

You see in the first cut between Kelli and Riley, Kelli is talking about Bill the ghost, Riley about the dark entity.

Second cut between the two, she’s talking about Bill again, and Riley is talking about Kelli’s psychic abilities. Notice that Ryan is trying to downplay her talents.

Third cut, Kelli is talking about the dark entity, and so is her husband, neither is talking about Bill the kindly ghost.

Last cut, Kelli is talking about the dark entity, and not Bill. But if you just watch it on the surface the producers and Ryan want you to think of only one thing a dark and evil headless entity which is not really happening at all.

We next see that Michelle Belanger is brought into the case. Two years prior to the investigation, Kelli’s spirit guide had her begin to crochet a sweater that was for Michelle. Michelle also received readings from Kelli that were so accurate to Michelle it proved Kelli’s talents beyond any doubt. And she even refers to Kelli “as the best psychic I ever encountered.”

Michelle explains that she is there to “manifest” energy with the help of PRS occult specialist Eilfie to encourage the spirit to appear.

We now move to Dead Time. They state Dead Time is taking place at 3 AM. Well, let’s look at the facts. 1) Just going off of the meter we see the times 1:33, 1:35, 1:37, and 1:38 AM. 2) Now let’s get it from someone who was part of the filming.

Kelli states: “It didn’t [begin at 3 AM] on either night. The first night is was from around 11:30PM to 1:30AM.”

We run through Dead Time, and the next scene to pay attention to is when Ryan interviews Heather about what happened during the supposed Dead Time. Notice that while Heather is sharing her experience, Ryan doesn’t look at her but at himself in the mirror throughout the entire scene.

Next up is Chip Coffey’s arrival on the scene. He does his normal walk through shtick and informs Ryan that a person with M letters then later changes it to W W.

This is one of those things that what you think you saw you really didn’t. Let’s focus on all the deception that took place here.

~1 Chip Coffey’s arrival. Remember, we are on Day 2 of filming. Is this when Chip gets into town? Not at all. He had been in town for over 48 hours prior to his “first arrival” on the scene.

~2 When Chip is asked by Ryan “Have I told you anything about the case?” Chip says: “You tell me nothing.” That’s actually the first truthful statement that they have made on camera at this point in the episode. Ryan didn’t have to tell anything. Chip knew the whole story of Bill’s death and the haunting prior to stepping foot on the property.

Kelli states: “Eric Leven asked if we could send documentation that Bill Wells lived in our home and died in an accident. We sent the news article detailing Bill’s accident and funeral along with deeds to show the list of former owners. At Eric Leven’s request we sent photographs of all the areas of our home where the phenomenon occurred regularly with detailed descriptions.

Eric Leven interviewed me by phone twice. He consulted Chip Coffey with all the details about our case before they decided to do the show.

We had to leave so we would not affect ‘so sensitive’ Chip’s psychic abilities. Chip had been given all those captioned photographs we sent Eric Leven explaining all locations in and around our home where the phenomenon occurred. As a result, Chip very accurately picked up on all the phenomenon including Bill Well’s initials, WW (William Wells).

Eric Leven from A&E told me on the phone, ‘I consulted Chip Coffey about your case and he was really excited. I forwarded all your info to him…’

On July 1st Sumit David, A&E Producer of Paranormal State came to our home, interviewed us on video and did the walk through on video so Chip Coffey could see everything in our home prior to his coming here. We showed him every place in and around our home where we have phenomenon and those are the exact places he picked up his psychic perceptions. They asked us to leave to do their walk through filming with Chip Coffey on the first day. We were told it was so he would not pick up anything from us regarding the dangerous entity in our hallway. We already knew he had all the information about Bill Wells, our ghost. We had to go away so we wouldn’t see that they were doing nothing about the entity we were asking help getting rid of. All the ‘proof’ about Bill Wells was sent to them to prove we had a haunting to add credence to our claim about the entity in our hall.”

So we now see that everything concerning Chip Coffey’s readings and alleged accurate psychic abilities are nothing but a sham and a fraud. But it really starts to pile up from this point on. And I would advise wading boots if you decide to keep on reading, because the stuff is going to get very deep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyHjjDR9JBQ&feature=related
The Messenger, part 2

We now witness an outright scripted staged deception by Heather, Eilfie, and Michelle. They do a deed search and surprise, surprise they come up with the name William Wells. A voiceover then tells the viewer that Bill died a tragic death. They visit the local newspaper office The Curry County Reporter, and uncovered the tragic story of the death of William Wells. What is the deception, you ask? They knew the name of William Wells was already on the deed of property. They knew that William Wells died a tragic death. They already had the newspaper article concerning the accident.

Kelli states: “Eric Leven asked if we could send documentation that Bill Wells lived in our home and died in an accident. We sent the news article detailing Bill’s accident and funeral along with deeds to show the list of former owners. At Eric Leven’s request we sent photographs of all the areas of our home where the phenomenon occurred regularly with detailed descriptions.”

Kelli states: “Sumit David promised us nothing on the show would be done which would be injurious to Bill Wells’ loved ones. Nothing would prove to be farther from the truth than this most heinous lie.

We shared with PRS and A&E a sad history of Bill’s death. Bill’s death hurt the entire city of Gold Beach. He was the beloved pharmacist in this small coastal fishing village and touched virtually everyone in the county. His death at the age of 32 shocked and saddened an entire county and the strange circumstances surrounding the accident (one person dying, the other walking away without a scratch) caused a controversy, which divided the town, making lifetime enemies of formerly dear friends. People could sense there was some kind of cover-up. The feud was so detrimental to people’s business and personal lives, the townspeople agreed never to mention it again, never to speak Bill’s name again and never to speculate about what happened that first day of October 1978. The town never wavered from their agreement not to speak of Bill Wells or his accident ever again.”

Ryan interviews the first EMT man on the scene of the accident, which is spliced with photos from the police report and a voiceover of Heather and Michelle talking about Bill’s injuries.

This is just another example of acts of deception on Paranormal State’s part. They knew all of the horrendous details about Bill’s physical injuries and the photos were from the police report. But what they don’t bother to inform the viewer is that out of respect for Bill and his family, friends and entire community, they had kept that part a secret. Until Paranormal State decided to expose it to the world with no thought of the pain and suffering that such an act would do.

Kelli states: “A&E promised us they would not show these accident photos. No one in Gold Beach, including Bill’s wife, knew the extent of his injuries, other than head trauma. That his head was crushed and severed was kept secret. This was devastating to those who loved Bill. Bill isn’t a 200-year-old ghost. He would only be 63 this December 8th. His friends, widow, children, and friend who drove the vehicle and survived the accident are all still alive and most still live in Gold Beach. These photos have been a secret for 30 years. The ‘cover-up’ the town argued about, the secret they sensed, was the heart-breaking truth of the bloody death of a beloved citizen. The responding officers, doctors and survivor of the crash kept this secret to protect all of Bill Well’s loved ones from an ugly image so that they could remember the smiling man as he was in life, not the broken body who was buried.”

We then see the second interview with Kelli. Again, there’s more dishonesty.

Kelli states: “I was asked to pretend I didn’t know any of the information for effect so that viewers could have the sense of the story unfolding, the way it had to us. ‘There would be no harm in presenting it again as though they made the discoveries on their own as they were the ones who ordered the accident report.’ It was genuine when I asked about the head injury. They didn’t tell me about Bill’s decapitation and they never let us see the report, so I don’t know it is actually true.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn2U7MaR8_g&feature=related
The Messenger, Part 3

We now come to the second Dead Time and the chaos and deception that raged throughout that entire event.

Point 1 – According to Kelli, Dead Time didn’t take place at 3 AM, but began at 11:30 and ended around 1:30.
Point 2 – When Michelle asked Kelli ‘did she hear that?’ Kelli goes ‘Uh Huh.’ But the scene is spliced to make it look as though she uttered that.
Point 3 – Notice how hyper Chip is getting about the movement in the kitchen. Yet neither he nor Ryan check it out. WHY? Observe their physical mannerisms – these men are both frightened.
Point 4 – The table moving is made into a big deal. According to Kelli, this is not uncommon at all. It really doesn’t move, it just vibrates.
Point 5 – The lesson that Paranormal State learned in the Hell’s Gate episode, is that if you fake things long enough you will eventually run into the real deal.
Point 6 – Chip and Ryan go down the hall and go into the guest bedroom. Ryan picks up a cold spot 10 degrees cooler than the rest of the area. They flip on the light and an outline of a person is seen by only Chip and Ryan.

Concerning point 6, this would be amazing if true but it’s not. The cold spot, which is alleged to be a ghost? Or a demon? Or maybe a vortex to the other side? No, none of those things. It’s a cold can of beer placed there by PRS.

Kelli states: “This entity frightened the PRS team and terrified Chip Coffey who refused to deal with it. Chip had me deal with it and hid in a chair in my living room. You can see me in the hallway in the show, but they pieced together dialogue to make it appear I was evicting our ghost, Bill Wells. The PRS crew ‘faked’ cold spots in our home. They explained to us that they were using a six-pack of beer to attract Bill and draw him out so they could photograph him. I thought it seemed ridiculous and said as much to the producer, Sumit David, who explained to us, ‘I really just think it’s about young college kids getting a hold of a six pack…’

After the episode was aired, I realized the ‘Cold Spot’ Ryan and Chip were ‘discovering’ in our guest room was one of the Budweiser cans! If you are forewarned you can actually see that it is a can of beer on the monitor which appears to be a glowing red orb. I did save these beer cans with their fingerprints in the event they wish to deny their actions.

I confronted Sumit David on the phone asking why they aired such a deception. He responded by explaining that ‘Ryan thought he was really onto something and he appeared so sincere that they left it in because Ryan’s fans really enjoy his innocent on-air persona of sincerity and devotion to his quest…’ I didn’t understand why my spirit guide directed me to save the beer cans as evidence. She is never wrong and when she told me I would need them I didn’t question it.”

Kelli states: “I told Sumit how angry Bill was becoming and that he was capable of doing harm. And what were they discovering about the angry entity in the hallway? What were they going to do about it? Every time I asked, I was told only that, ‘They have a few ideas about what to do. They’re still deciding what approach to take with it.’ Again I asked Sumit why they needed beer to draw Bill out when he was happy to show himself if they would just let him give his message. Sumit said he simply thought the beer was more about a bunch of college kids getting their hands on a six-pack. I was so tired of getting non-answers I quit asking questions. That night at dead time Riley was asked to stay outside with the support crew. I was asked to help set up the sitting room and was told Riley would be coming in after we were through setting up. You need to know these details because what is on film is so pieced together and voiced over and edited so deceptively, it was difficult for us to recognize which parts were which. We could recognize the video, but the audio didn’t match.”

Kelli states: “I don’t know about any of their noises in the kitchen or elsewhere during Dead Time or any other time. I did not experience any of the noise phenomena they were picking up in the two years we have lived here. Our noises are different and nothing has changed. The table moving is real. That phenomenon is a common one in our home. The table does not actually move, it undulates like waves making a boat rock. Our house is in a place where the other side and our world have very little separation. That veil, like an ozone is not very defined on our property. We live in a type of portal between us and the other side. Our house sits on top of an underground stream which connects to Hunter Creek. Where Taylor Creek and Hunter Creek meet forms a kind of meridian and that is where our house sits. Put in a channeling medium and you have paranormal Disneyland when you are inside the house. This scared Chip Coffey so much he would not deal with the entity in the hallway after Bill, our ghost, was so angry over what Chip did. He rushed out and lunged at Chip scaring him badly. You can see this on the second Dead Time when Chip has his hand in front of his mouth and is hiding in a leather chair looking at me in the hallway. Michelle Belanger had an argument with Chip during that Dead Time explaining I was the real deal unlike him. Michelle knows this as I spent only a small time with her and discussed with her a secret she says no psychic she has ever been with has ever picked up. I called Chip a fraud. Michelle stood up and told Chip I was the read deal, a real medium, not like him who was faking it. The camera rolled the entire time. Look at Michelle’s face. At one point she simply looks disgusted and quit participating.”

Kelli states: “The second night Dead Time was about 11:30 to 1:30 AM with the break for the huge fiasco that did not appear on tape. Chip Coffey was so afraid after Bill rushed out to defend me against Chip’s terrible attack directed at me and my family. In our interview with Katrina before they arrived Katrina asked me to list the names, relationships and birth and death dates of all my deceased family members who have died in the last 10 years. Chip was claiming the evil entity in the hallway was my dead grandfather and that he had sexually abused me as a child. This is utterly ridiculous and untrue. That was when I called Chip Coffey a fraud and Chip responded with such abusive, intimidating and belittling language and demeanor in his attempt show me he was right about the abuse that I probably sublimated and that was why I couldn’t remember. I told him I don’t intimidate that easily and his incompetent bullying tactics would not work on me. I am a medical hypnotherapist of some repute and my biography is in the Marquis Who’s Who. You can go to any public library or newspaper and log onto the Marquis Who’s Who on the Web. I am listed Kelli Lorraine Ryan, DOB 062657. This is the most authoritative biographical data in the world and each fact is verified. He still wouldn’t back down and Michelle Belanger came to my defense and started having a yelling match with him. Ryan stepped in and finally pulled everyone to a neutral corner and took me outside to calm everybody down. Ryan and I were the only ones who did not lose their cool. Ryan never raised his voice, but he was so filled with anxiety he was almost shaking. He had a very hard time keeping Chip under control. They have a very enmeshed and unhealthy relationship. They need each other and cover for each other and conspire together and yet just under the surface you can see how much they are threatened by each other and how much jealousy and contempt they have for each other. It would take very little pushing to get them to turn on each other. They would easily blame the other for all the deception.”

Let’s go back to the cold spot for a second. Did PRS or PS or even Ryan come out and admit it publicly, that they faked a cold spot, which would be the honorable thing for them to do. No. Ryan Buell, Director/Founder of Penn State PRS, who cites the motto: “To Trust, Honor, and Always Seek the Truth.” On his forum can’t even tell the truth about the cold spot on the bed. First he claims that he hasn’t viewed the episode. Then he claims that the cold spot is an object that has been refrigerated. He later says he’ll get back to the questioner about the subject—but never does. Did Chip say anything? No. Did anyone from PRS or A&E say anything? No.

Clearly notice that both Chip and Ryan have frightened looks on their faces and everyone has fled from the living room. As much out of fear of the entity in the hallway and the anger and disrespect that Chip was showing towards Kelli.

The viewer is given the impression that Kelli is asking Bill to leave – which is not true. She’s trying to get the dark entity to leave and no one comes to her aid. Not Chip, Ryan, or the occult specialist, Eilfie. Nor do they offer to call in a expert in this field, not even a local priest or minister. Because it’s all about them looking good and everybody else be damned.

Kelli states: “PRS say they are PARANORMAL RESEARCHERS and expressed no interest in many of the real phenomenon they recorded [on our property]. Ryan picked up the spirits in the forest on his IFR and didn’t bother to put that in. Does that indicate interest in the paranormal?”

I wish I could say that the deception ended there. But there are even more lies yet to be revealed. The first is the EVP from the last Dead Time. What it is from is a ham radio operator that is located nearby. So there was no “paranormal event” recorded at all. The second lie is that Bill did have a message to deliver to not only Jim, his beloved friend who survived the accident, but to the entire community of Gold Beach. That was one of the purposes, supposedly, of Ryan and Paranormal State showing up, was to assist Kelli in getting The Message out. But did it? No, it ended up on the cutting room floor.

The next deception is the supposed final interview between Kelli, Riley, and Ryan. Is that the way it really happened? And is she really thanking Ryan for all his efforts of the past few days?

Kelli states: “You see me thanking Ryan gratefully and tearfully for his help right after I was able to deliver Bill’s message to his friend and town about what really happened in his accident. My relief moved me to tears because Riley finally felt relief after three nights of AM bedtimes and three hours of sleep per night not one meal sitting down mostly orange juice and bananas I was sleep deprived and exhausted and so grateful for the experience to be over it showed on camera. Bill’s message wound up on the cutting room floor.

More deceptions occurred even after they left surrounding the letter writing. During filming they made me recreate many things they said they would put in the beginning montage. During these recreations they were always trying to get me to scream or do something dramatic to show how terrifying the experiences were. They were disappointed when I told them I usually just froze when these things happened. They wanted me to do dramatic things to help the audience understand how horrifying the experiences were for their benefit. I told them it wouldn’t be accurate and I didn’t want to deceive viewers because it wasn’t right. Each time Ben Wolf, the director, would respond by saying, ‘That’s really good. You’re right. A lot of our subjects aren’t as talented as you are and we can’t ask them to do this so we felt comfortable asking you…’ Ben Wolf was working from a list of every phenomenon we gave A&E and PRS.”

After the team left, what happened? Did Kelli’s dark entity leave? No. And actually, in some ways, things got worse. That very day that PRS packed up their equipment and left Kelli and Riley’s home, the stirred up dark entity returned to its terrorizing ways. Even with the team still in town, they would not return to their home to offer assistance. Weeks later, when Kelli contacted PRS and PS for follow-up help, what did she get? Sumit David the producer is quoted: “But you did get some help didn’t you? So then everything’s ok. I’m sure everything will work out.” Again, we see the client has value only when the cameras are rolling, but when it’s over, the help is gone.

It wasn’t until Kelli and Riley, with assistance of those outside of the PRS team, discovered who and what the entity was. It was a displaced spirit that when the mountainside had been carved out spirits that were native to the area had been disrupted. This particular spirit had ended up in what is now Kelli and Riley’s home, terrorizing all the people who had owned it, including Bill Wells himself, when he was alive. Eventually, help was obtained and the spirit was effectively dealt with and finally, weeks later, Kelli and Riley had their house back.

But was the deception only limited to things going on in front of the camera? To be honest, a more sinister act of deception was taking off the site of the filming. Throughout the stay within the small town, members of PRS did their best to dig up dirt on both Kelli and Riley. To no avail.

Kelli states: “The A&E producer arrived in town the beginning of the week of filming and all other A&E and PRS crew arrived shortly after with Chip Coffey and Michelle Belanger arriving Tuesday, July 8, 2008. They made their presence conspicuous and certainly raised eyebrows and suspicions amongst the townspeople who began to call me on the phone immediately. They arrived several days before they indicated to us, trying to uncover anything about us they could, hoping to find something unsavory or at least a provocative secret. I can only surmise they were a little disappointed to find out we are pillars of the community and beloved in the town as the newcomers who were so quickly and fondly embraced by the natives of Gold Beach. They discovered people who were also from a small farm town and accustomed to hard work, volunteerism and generously donating time and money.

The director, Ben Wolf, shared in an unguarded moment how no matter how many people in town were asked, ‘and they asked everywhere’ they couldn’t find anyone who said anything other than we were the ‘nicest, kindest people they ever met…’ Why were they trying so hard to look for dirt? I will never really know beyond the persistent feeling that untrustworthy people generally judge others as untrustworthy.”

In addition, the former owners of the property were contacted to be on the show and again, it’s best to read what happens in their own words via email.

Rachelle Schaaf and Mike DeRoest: “Well, as those of you who tuned in to A&E’s Paranormal State last night and watched the “Headless Haunting/The Messenger” YOU DIDN’T SEE US! We were left, I’m afraid, on the cutting room floor – edited out. Bummer! Had to fit those commercial breaks in!

Actually, that’s ok because our experiences were far more tame than what the Ryan’s endured – thank heavens! Paranormal State was looking for the juicy stuff that they could handily craft a story around. I guess stoves, heaters, lights that go on by themselves were not sexy enough for “Reality TV.”

When the producer called us. We did agree to make the trip over to Gold Beach to be interviewed on camera. We spent a few hours hanging around town while the crew tended to some dramatic new development; and then we spent a couple of hours wandering around the house having our conversations recorded with the new home owners and the ghostbusters. And then it didn’t even make it to TV! Mike and I need a better agent.

The story that came out on TV was only a portion of the history of the home and that which lent itself most readily to sensationalism. There were some other wild things that the paranormal experts were tossing around that were way over the top too, I’m glad the public was spared that stuff.

Do I believe in paranormal energies, perhaps ghosts? Yes, I do.
Do I believe in Reality TV? Uh, no.”

And as the final credits roll, listen to the deceptive words that Ryan utters as he strolls along the beach. All those words are empty words, for he knows as well as anyone, that the needs of a client were sacrificed for the personal needs of fame and fortune that both him and Chip Coffey so desperately seek. In closing, Kelli says it best, and I will let her have the final words on this subject.

“On the one hand, people say these shows are just entertainment, it’s no big deal. And they are right. But real people’s lives are used as the kindling and are used up just as easily. They could simply interview people about their problem and portray it as a dramatized account of the ghosts/demons etc. in these peoples’ lives. What they do is offer help to people who are at their most vulnerable and not equipped to handle it. If they had an infestation of rats or bugs they could call a reputable exterminator and hold them accountable for their services rendered. PRS offers themselves up as help with experts and clergy and after they dramatize, fictionalize, and sensationalize some household’s problem they walk away and leave these people with whatever haunting, demonic presence or troubling spirit and, in some cases, worsen the problem. After PRS gets what they want the family is left on their own. If a reputable exterminator came to the home, looked at the situation, invited in a few more rats and cockroaches to move in and then walked away that would be illegal. When anyone is on national TV offering themselves as experts the FCC requires truth in advertising. These people are saying they are researchers, helpers, and warriors offering to battle evil paranormal forces. They cannot mix their metaphors. First by saying we’re here to help you and follow up, and then, at the end of filming drive off and say you’re on your own. After all, this is only entertainment.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwPNDDRnBv4
The Messenger, Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyHjjDR9JBQ&feature=related
The Messenger, Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn2U7MaR8_g&feature=related
The Messenger, Part 3

OPEN CHALLENGE TO CHIP & RYAN:
Ryan Buell and Chip Coffey are attacking me and my credibility. They are attacking my claim that my readings have never been wrong. I don’t claim my readings can never be wrong. I am stating correctly they have never been wrong, past-tense. They have all proven to be correct to this date.

The most telling part of this attack is that they attack me. Two bullies ganging up on a 5′ tall, 51 year old grandmother — that’s easy. What is not so easy is attacking the truth. They don’t seem to be attacking the truthful evidence. The truth is never that easy to corrupt or fight, it stands on its own. It’s much easier for a coward to attack the messenger.

Why haven’t they confronted me directly? They have my address, phone number and email. They have been in my home. They used my home to lie to their entire audience and no matter how many times they re-edit the episode to remove their lies, more lies show up on tape until there is nothing left to air. How naive can they be? They aired it once in its entirety. Haven’t they heard of DVR? Too many people have saved this show, it won’t go away and neither will the memory of their deception. They are only compounding it by attacking me on the Internet and all behind my back.

They used my home to stage their fakery and my crime is that I spoke the truth about it. Chip Coffey has threatened to sue. I pray he does. I would love to show my episode to a judge and the beer cans with their fingerprints and the emails between A&E and me. Let a judge decide who is telling the truth. A judge would also deem their attack of me and my sanity on the Internet LIBEL and award me damages. I am a private citizen who offered their home to these people who abused my trust and attacked me when I told the truth about it TWO CELEBRITIES ATTACKING A PRIVATE CITIZEN. Does the truth threaten them that much? If I were lying they would have a lawyer send me a letter demanding I cease and desist in my lies. No officer of the court would do this after examining the evidence because they would not bully a person who will beat them in court. Please look at my biographical data at your public library. Who’s Who on the Web is the original Who’s Who started in 1899. It is not a vanity Who’s Who imitator. My listing is Kelli Lorraine Ryan, DOB 062657. See what I have accomplished in my life. This data is verified and considered the most authoritative biographical data in the world. What have Chip and Ryan done in their life? You can sample Who’s Who free for a week if you don’t want to go to the library or newspaper office.

One last lesson on accurate readings: My readings are accurate because I do not embellish the information my guide gives me. I am not afraid to say “I don’t know, my guide is not answering.” Many psychics are afraid to disappoint so they use their intuition to fill in the blanks. Some psychics get a real high by impressing their client with all their talent so they give a reading to impress and use excuses to say they night have to be patient for it to come to pass. Some psychics want to comfort their client and use logical intuition and pray they give a good reading. Clients don’t complain because the psychic cares. My clients come to me for the TRUTH. I have the courage to give exactly what comes through. If very little came through, I would not charge my client. My readings generally take 1 hour and I have volumes of inform nation valuable to my client and answer even more than they come in for. I have my client prepare ahead by writing down their questions and thinking about them before they come to me or call me on the phone for phone readings. I am not afraid to give the information coming from my guide. I know the difference between my guide’s message, my thoughts and the clients’s hopes. My client wants the TRUTH, not wishful thinking — they can get that for free. I have never refused to give a reading based on a client’s inability to pay. I give that reading as all readings with love in my heart. They generally show their gratitude by sending in referral clients. I am not afraid of giving bad news. The client does not ask a question without being ready to hear the answer, good or bad. I’ve never had to disappoint a client. I simply am not afraid to admit something is not coming through. So far, I haven’t had to. That is the main stumbling block of all psychic readings — their fear of something not coming through which actually acts like interference. I give classes on improving your psychic abilities and much of the tutorial is on this very aspect of the reading.

Even psychics have questions. I do wonder. Why are two celebrities so unnerved by one little grandmother telling the truth? They can’t be afraid of a little grandma, they must be afraid of the truth.


Kelli L. Ryan

ANNOUNCEMENTS:

~ On November 8th I will be analyzing the “I am Six” episode of Paranormal State.

~ Beginning on November 15 I will begin an in-depth analysis of the first season of Psychic Kids: Children of the Paranormal.

In closing, for all those who have been contacting me and talking off the record, I hope you now can see that you’re not alone and that there are others who have been used as well by the hands of other people’s quests for fame and fortune.

THE PARANORMAL MOMENT OF TRUTH CHALLENGE

Dear Ryan Buell, Chip Coffey, Lorraine Warren, Sandra & Keith Johnson, Dr. Ron Milione, Tony Spera, Shannon & Jeff Sylvia, C.J. Sellers, Chris Moon, Michelle Belanger, Chad Calek, Michael & Marti Parry, Mark & Debby Constantino, Kim Russo, and David Schrader:

I have expressed concerns about how you conduct your investigations and the validity of those investigations, where anyone with a clear and discerning eye can see that they are not authentic. I have also witnessed heavy-handed tactics being used against people who question your alleged authority within the paranormal community and dared to raise questions concerning the validity of appearing on the A&E shows, Paranormal State, and Psychic Kids: Children of the Paranormal. I can no longer sit by in silence. That is why I came up with The Paranormal Moment of Truth Challenge, which will benefit you, your organization, the paranormal field, and a charity that would be assisted from the donation of the prize money.

1 ~ It would silence your critics if you are determined to be telling the truth about all your claims and how they are presented. There can be no one left to challenge your honesty and integrity.

2 ~ It would not only benefit your organization, but it would also help the entire paranormal field. Because if such evidence is true, it will be brought to a much wider audience, which hopefully would fuel additional legitimate investigations. So it’s a win-win situation for everyone.

3 ~ The charity of your choice would have the prize money donated to them. If the truth is being told, that prize money could reach $500,000.

So, what is The Paranormal Moment of Truth Challenge? I am sure you’ve heard of the Fox Network program entitled The Moment of Truth. This is where a contestant is hooked up to a lie detector test and asked 50 questions, of which 21 of them are used on the actual show. As long as you tell the truth, you keep on winning money — up to $500,000. The production company, Lighthearted Entertainment Inc., would jump at an opportunity of doing a show with the two of you. And I will put my personal credibility on the line and appear, as well. For if you visit my Free All Spirits page (www.myspace.com/freeallspirits), you’ll notice that I personally make what some would call outlandish claims concerning my work as a Demonologist/Exorcist/Paranormal Investigator/Caring Spiritual Adviser.

If you would like to be “one step closer to the truth” then this is a way to achieve your goal. If interested, please contact me at this email address and I will get the ball rolling as soon as possible.

Your friend in spirit,
Kirby

Full source:EyeontheParanormal

WILL YOU STILL WATCH?




Written by Javier Ortega - javier@ghosttheory.com
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  • jbondo says:

    Bea, it would only be reasonable that many deaths would occur in hospitals as that’s where most of the sick people go. Furthermore, something being natural doesn’t make it safe, practical or good for you.

    I’m not defending modern medicine nor refuting the value of homeopathic, holistic, etc…avenues of treatment. I think there is a balance in there somewhere. I am currently working on a delivery system for cancer treatment and feel very strongly that it will help in the fight against cancer. However, I disdain radiation therapy as I find it barbaric at best. I watched my father go thru added suffering he didn’t need from this treatment.

    One thing you have to say is if it were not for antibiotics there’d be millions more dead.

    Finally, I haven’t been sick in several years but still see my doctor for check ups. Just because you don’t feel or see something doesn’t mean it’s not there.

  • @Jbondo,

    I agree. You need to find a balance between modern and holistic medicine. Checkups are also good since you can detect cancers and other deceases in time to do something about it. I think preventative care is best, so stay away from fastfood and preprocessed garbage :)

    @Bea
    The show was funny and you’re quite charming. Your stories about Elvis and Tupac are interesting, I just don’t know what to think. I mean, I’m open to the possibility. I guess it’s one of those things that you have to experience for yourself to really form an opinion.

    -Javier

  • Bea says:

    Well, JBondo since I do not believe in death . . . I really don’t care when I leave this Earth since none of us get out of here alive anyway.

    I am very in tune with my body and would know if something was wrong before a doctor did. Doctors are good for some things but we need to take responsibility for our health period.

    Thank you Javier . . . and that was just a soundbite. I have literally hundreds of stories about the other side from 20 years of being dialed in to the spirit world. It is more real to me then this one.

  • Bea,

    Wait, you don’t believe in death? What do you mean?

    -Javier

  • jbondo says:

    Yea Javier, that was my next question as well. I am a Christian who believes in an afterlife but my life here has to end for that to begin.

    Also Bea, you’re telling me that you would know if your sugar level was over 200? Being in tune with your body is just smart thinking but I find it difficult that you’d know when a cancer cell begins to grow.

    I’m not trying to pick on you here but….

  • Bea says:

    My dearest Javier. . . our body is not who we are. It is kind of like a third dimension physical space suit that like everything in the material world has a beginning and an end but you go on and on in your light body which in my case looks really good. :)

    I died when I was 13 because I was like “Oh my god, there’s like no love here so I’m like outta here.” :( I grew up in the valley, dude!

    So I attempted suicide, crossed over, was greeted by a bunch of light beings who told me I had to go back because I was on a mission :) . . . and the last thing they said to me was, “Study Astrology, become a vegetarian, don’t ever see a doctor and don’t ever get a credit card!!”

  • Bea,

    Well I do believe in the afterlife. I think that what you are saying is that we don’t “die” and stop existing, but rather, we transplant ourselves or “cross over” to a different form. Right?

    I can dig that. That’s what I think as well.

    I don’t know about being a vegetarian. I’m more of a “meatatarian” (except pork). Man can I make some good ‘Mole Poblano’.

    I’m glad you had that “awakening” and see things in a different light.

    -Javier

  • Bea says:

    A human being digestive system is designed to eat grain, fruit and vegetables and although I do not judge people who eat meat, they should do so in moderation as that is the reason many people get sick. Like Man Vs Food guy Adam Richmond is a heart attack waiting to happen. Bon Appetit!

  • Bea says:

    Let’s get back on topic shall we . . . Chip Coffey is about as psychic as a Cappuccino and should be working behind the counter at Ben and Jerry’s. :)

  • Bea,

    LOL. You’re nuts.

    -Javier

  • Bea says:

    Nuts and White Chocolate make a visionary combo baby! ;)

  • Bea says:

    JBondo, sorry I just saw your post.

    I’m not getting cancer and I don’t even allow thoughts like that any kind of energy. The power of the mind is akin to the power of God. I am a healer JB. I have healed three men that were at death’s door with the AIDS virus with just one guided meditation and they are all alive and well today after 10 years.

    No disrespect JB but Doctors, doctor and Healers heal.

    Jesus was a healer.

  • ermansup says:

    I absolutely respect a persons right to belief and act according to their own will and that denying this would be among the great crimes against human rights.

    With that said, I would still be very careful about making public truth claims about the nature of medical science when you yourself have no education on that field. Modern medicine works, it really does, libraries are filled with evidence of this and no one educated in medicine, and in their right mind, is debating the matter.

    Supernatural phenomenon such as miracle healing and ghosts need to be proven with the same kind of peer review scientific study that modern medicine has been. Not surprisingly all miraculous powers thus far have vanished when taken into a controlled laboratory environment. Until someone manages to hold onto his powers beyond the lab door there is no rational reason to believe any of it.

  • Bea says:

    Sorry ermansup, but with all respect, I am not going to get into a debate. It’s off topic.

    And I know it will sound crazy to you, but I work with spirit guides not ghosts. There is a big difference and my main man Merlin said to me once, “Bea, scientists have discovered their electrons, protons and neurons but they’re still morons!” And I agree.

    Please do not presume what I have studied or not. I read a lot and have been appalled by the results of so called medical science aka the torture of innocent animals for human benefit. FACT: Most drugs developed on animals do not work on humans and actually cause great harm.

    Don’t you love all the commercials that claim help for everything from depression to insomnia but the side effects are worse then the condition. I love the one for depression that can caused increased thoughts of suicide in teenagers.

    Herbs have been around for thousands of years and are much better at helping people then drugs.

    Compassion for all living beings is more important then anything.

  • ermansup says:

    @Bea
    Clearly our understanding of the empirical world is not even close to being on the same level and thus effectively rendering any debate futile. The fact that “Merlin” would categorize neurons with electrons and protons is an astounding testimony of his ignorance.

    All I can add is a most sincere hope that the United States support for science can survive this spreading televised argument from ignorance. Because if not the rest of us will suffer as well.

  • Bea says:

    ermansup, lighten up . . . it’s a joke . . . it rhymes capiche?

    Laughter is the best medicine!!!! Amen!

    Human beings treat their bodies like garbage disposals so when they get sick because of it,

    In general, I have more love and respect for animals then I do humans because they are the victims of human stupidity which is infinite and sorry but . . . what passes for science these days is a joke too!

    Vivisection is demonic period!!

  • Bea says:

    Javier, I do say thank you to all the medical doctors and nurses and in Haiti right now making a difference without question and truly saving lives. This is where medical advances that have been made make a beautiful difference, no question about it.

  • Bea says:

    OK, we need to get back on topic so I will share what is the most ridiculous example of bad science. I watched in horror on 60 minutes while Diane Sawyer interviewed an idiot posing as a scientist who studies sleep deprivation and it’s effects. And he does this by forcing rodents to go without sleep but even more absurd . . . he forces fruit flies to go without sleep and has come to the amazing conclusion that they don’t want to have sex. Wow and taxpayer money goes to fund this crap.

    Now it’s easy to get back on topic because what do fruit flies and Paranormal State have in common . . . Chip Coffey! ;)

  • Jinx says:

    personally i think this chick is crazy…who cares…they didn’t help u u did it ur self so what big deal…lots of people have haunted house…hell i lived in one…i say it like this…ur a psych…good for you don’t like ryan n chip or what ever than what ever…no one gives a damn but u…

  • Carl says:

    very interesting article.I watch the show and am a fan.my whole family too.It may be fake and scripted,but you gotta admit…Katrina is smoking hot! I think they should do an entire show on her,and things that “go bump” in the nite :)

  • Daniel says:

    so is this show realy real or is it fake?

  • redngreen says:

    I think the sexual tension among the cast is the most authentic part of the show. Here are my theories:

    Ryan is secretly pining for Heather but she remembers him from his fat days and is not interested.

    Katrina is holding a torch for Ryan but he’s too busy longing for Heather to notice, despite a drunken make-out session they had one time. Katrina can’t let it go, Ryan can’t forget it fast enough.

    Eilfie has the hots for Katrina, who is of course oblivious due to her loyalty to Ryan. However, a drunken make-out session between the 2 of them in the future is probably not out of the question.

    Sergey also secretly pines for Ryan but his professional facade can never allow it to show.

    See, it’s one big frustrated circle. It’s TV gold really. ;)

  • Colt3030150 says:

    im just gonna say, im a fan of the show and that its main idea is to try and ensure us who believe, that there is something after death, that it doesnt just end when we die. I have watched the show and yes i believe it is real from certain things i have seen on it, though there are moments where you just know the scene is exagerated to scare the viewers because lets face it, it is pretty much a horror show we watch in part for cheap thrills.

    I read the entire article and im sorry if you feel they didnt help you at all, which i can see they pretty much didnt, but if she is really a psychic/medium, shouldnt her spirit or something have nudged her into thinking that maybe Ryan, Chip and all them wouldnt work or help in the way that was needed?, I mean no offense and maybe i dont quite understand fully about psychics and mediums but i would like to think that maybe their intuitions could someway, somehow alert them of this possibilty that PRS wasent going to help, and im truely sorry they didnt help. They have helped others out though, who are satisfied with the help they received.

    And another thing, parts of that email just sounded like an advertisement for her psychic abilities, am i wrong?

  • camel89 says:

    colt how do you know they have helped other ppl. u no that by just watching the episodes? why would u think that she is trying to advertise her psychic ability, did she leave her contact info for ppl to be able to use her for her ability’s?

  • myd says:

    redngreen, that is the most funniest description of PS I’ve possibly heard. I enjoy the show because it is in fact so much drama, but the frustration is definitely noticed. Good eye. Good eye!

    So some say they love the show, others say they hate it. Some believe and others say it’s a load of s***. Either way, the show is poorly edited and any proof of paranormal activity is only visible by displaced shadows and creaks in the floorboards. How long can PS keep this up as their only proof? A&E will drop the show once the ratings hit the floor. I give that by this next season if they don’t start thinking of new ways to create our friends from beyond the grave. Just the other day a ghost was telling me PS was even embarrassing for him to watch. Said he’d out proof them. =P

    Alright, was just kidding, but I do understand from whatever is living in my home is not fond of the show. It constantly turns the tv off when I turn to the show and even Ghost Adventures. Probably trying to tell me it’s all rubbish or something. Believe what you need to and please don’t take these shows to heart.

  • Gabby says:

    I’ll keep watching ^_^ Nothing faker than that Chicago Police ghost hunting show

  • lilleth says:

    i have to say that i am a fan of paranormal state, i watch it and love it. I do know that things are tweaked for entertainment value but i always thought that the team were there to help the clients and provide aftercare. I have always beleived ryans words and how he feels. I have also read and heard ppl talk about ryan saying how he has changed and hungers after fame and fortune, saying this though i am still a fan of him i just hope he doesnt let ppl around him completely change him. I hope he can see people for what they are, his credibilty could be damaged if influenced by certian people that are there to use him for what ‘they’ can get. I know the team are young but so what that doesnt mean they wnt do their job properly, as for the mediums they use on p.s. i alway thougth they were good but if they are getting information before hand then they will seem brilliant, i like michelle she dnt seem to say too much and go over board like chip does but i do like to watch chip. It would be a massive shame if the sphycics were given info before hand as that is not what us viewers are led to beleive so when they say names and so on us viewers think oh my gosh they are the real deal they are phsycic. P.S is exciting and keeps you on the edge of your seat, i guess they do have to try and find out if their is anything dark or secrets in ppls pats as im sure lots of times they have been lied to by clients, iv seen a couple of episodes where the ppl protest they dnt know why this spirit is torturing them ect and it comes out they practised black magic or devil worshiping, ppl do have secrets so it dnt suprise me they were asking the twon folk about their clients, its called research. i am going to keep watching p.s but now i have read kelli’s letter i am going to watch the messengers again and see what i can see for myslef. I am sorry kelli and her husband didnt have a productive time with p.s and didnt get what they wanted. At leats the dark spirit is gone now.

  • UCantBeSerious says:

    We are all spiritual beings having a human experience…..

  • Jason says:

    I personally think this lady, and her “spirit guide” are a little out there, If the team did not do a good job, and all this chaos was happening why were they called back twice ?

    Here’s my psychic reading on this.

    This lady wanted tv time, she wanted them to portray her as a medium to help her career, she called them back over, and over to “try” to make the story bigger, get 2 tv episodes, maybe even her own show.

    They thought she was off her rocker, and did not, she got mad, and decided to make up some portraying them as fakes, while making herself out to be the worlds best psychic.

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  • gemirn says:

    Thanks for posting that article. It is interesting to see a different perspective of that show from someone who has direct experience with the cast and crew. I only viewed the show myself twice and was NOT impressed because 1) they were not IMHO very scientific in their approach and 2) There seemed to be a strong emphasis on the use of religion in each case to rid said homes of unexplained phenomena.

    The only way to prove or disprove the existence of “ghosts” is with the use of hard science. Clearly, this woman in Oregon has some reasons to doubt the validity of their investigative practices and her story is worth hearing.

    I am new to the site *waves* and just want to thank you for your willingness to always include the witnesses of both the believer and the skeptic.

    Cheers

  • sherri says:

    I am in total agreement with gemirn…to be honest…this show bores me to death…no pun intended.

    my thirst for answers thrive on scientific evidence. For most of us, spirits exists, but now lies the question….why? and how?

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