Mayan Long Count Calander

According to Mexico’s National Institute of Anthropology and History there is an apparent reference to the Mayan cycle ending 2012 date in the Comalcalco ruin not far from where the original was discovered.

The Comalcalco Temple is a rare structure in that it was fabricated entirely out of brick. One such brick is where the inscription was found years ago.

Yes, you read that right, it was discovered several years ago and undergone intensive study. The reason so few are aware of this inscribed brick is due to the fact that it’s never been on display.

Here are the details of the finding and what it means for the future:

MEXICO CITY — Mexico’s archaeology institute downplays theories that the ancient Maya predicted some sort of apocalypse would occur in 2012, but on Thursday it acknowledged that a second reference to the date exists on a carved fragment found at a southern Mexico ruin site.

Most experts had cited only one surviving reference to the date in Mayan glyphs, a stone tablet from the Tortuguero site in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco.

But the National Institute of Anthropology and History said in a statement that there is in fact another apparent reference to the date at the nearby Comalcalco ruin. The inscription is on the carved or molded face of a brick. Comalcalco is unusual among Mayan temples in that it was constructed of bricks.

Arturo Mendez, a spokesman for the institute, said the fragment of inscription had been discovered years ago and has been subject to thorough study. It is not on display and is being kept in storage at the institute.

The “Comalcalco Brick,” as the second fragment is known, has been discussed by experts in some online forums. Many still doubt that it is a definite reference to Dec. 21, 2012 or Dec. 23, 2012, the dates cited by proponents of the theory as the possible end of the world.

Referring to past or future?

“Some have proposed it as another reference to 2012, but I remain rather unconvinced,” David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin, said in a message to The Associated Press.

Stuart said the date inscribed on the brick “‘is a ‘Calendar Round,’ a combination of a day and month position that will repeat every 52 years.”

The brick date does coincide with the end of the 13th Baktun; Baktuns were roughly 394-year periods, and 13 was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas. The Mayan Long Count calendar begins in 3114 B.C., and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

But the date on the brick could also correspond to similar dates in the past, Stuart said.

“There’s no reason it couldn’t be also a date in ancient times, describing some important historical event in the Classic period. In fact, the third glyph on the brick seems to read as the verb huli, ‘he/she/it arrives,'” Stuart wrote. “There’s no future tense marking (unlike the Tortuguero phrase), which in my mind points more to the Comalcalco date being more historical than prophetic.”

Cryptic characteristics

Both inscriptions — the Tortuguero tablet and the Comalcalco brick — were probably carved about 1,300 years ago, and both are cryptic in some ways.

The Tortuguero inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation. However, erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible, though some read the last eroded glyphs as perhaps saying, “He will descend from the sky.”

The Comalcalco brick is also odd in that the molded or inscribed faces of the bricks were probably laid facing inward or covered with stucco, suggesting they were not meant to be seen.

The Institute of Anthropology and History has long said rumors of a world-ending or world-changing event in late December 2012 are a Westernized misinterpretation of Mayan calendars.

The institute repeated Thursday that “Western messianic thought has twisted the cosmovision of ancient civilizations like the Maya.”

The institute’s experts say the Maya saw time as a series of cycles that began and ended with regularity, but with nothing apocalyptic at the end of a given cycle.

Given the strength of Internet rumors about impending disaster in 2012, the institute is organizing a special round table of 60 Mayan experts next week at the archaeological site of Palenque, in southern Mexico, to “dispel some of the doubts about the end of one era and the beginning of another, in the Mayan Long Count calendar.”

Source: MSNBC

Reference:
Even the Maya are sick of 2012 hype
End of the world in 2012? Not so fast

I still don’t understand how some get the idea that December 2012 means the end of the world. The Mayans themselves have denied this many times since this whole Mayan calendar apocalypse thing began.

Of course from studying psychology I do understand the subconscious death wish that some aspire to. Apparently they prefer to take everyone with them.

One cycle ends and a new one begins.

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  • Billy Bob
  • Brain Cell

    Show me one Mayan city where the native people are flourishing and demonstrating advanced technological intelligence today.

    Oh, right, you can’t because there AREN’T ANY! Their civilization DIED.

    They weren’t advanced enough to survive as a civilization. Why on Earth would anybody trust that they had insight into when the world would end based on a carved rock they probably made while perpetually drunk or stoned?

  • The Oshmar

    Oh boy. I love this kind of stuff, it really adds chlorine to the human gene pool when people start taking these end of the earth claims seriously and drinking the poisoned gatorade. I mean it’s not like it’s ever happened before right?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

    Well, I mean APART from those.

    I saw a documentary on these end of the earth claims, there are research centres that are getting calls from some people who are asking them if they should kill off their children and themselves before these “events” take place, you know, to save them from suffering.

  • ophu
  • Skeptic

    Okay,

    I have a question. If this galactic alignment takes place every 26,000 years then it should be pretty much lined up right now correct? Its only 1/26,000th away from alignment currently. Wouldn’t we be feeling the effects right now? Oh wait…there has been unusual weather patterns recently.

    Oh boy, now I am concerned.

  • Does anything magical ever happen on January 1? No. It’s a new year because we make it a new year. Same with the Mayans I’m sure– end one unit of time, start another. Still, I really want something exciting to happen– end capitalism and our over-consumptive ways or something.

  • Lindsay

    i call bs on all of this. especially because it says in the bible no man knows when the world will end. are we sure harold camping isn’t a mayan?

  • At the Penn Museum in Philadelphia, we’re getting ready to use this “end of the world” prediction as a great starting point to invite visitors to learn more about the Maya culture and world view. Check out MAYA 2012: Lords of Time if you are in the area!

  • cipher

    Everyone should watch history channel’s ancient aliens . It explains everything pretty much . Mayans did have advanced knowledge in the astronomy field and they most likely got it from their “Gods”. Now think about it , when the Europeans arrived here they thought they were their gods. Why? Because of their advanced technology. What a coincidence every major religion has a god that descended from the sky…hmm..wake up people, we have been visited before, and we will be again very soon. It won’t be the end of the world. Ot will be the end of a human cycle and will begin a new one once we have been answered all our questions that we have had all this time . This was all a set up and we r being prepared for it .theres alot of evidence left behind by our ancestors and we are looking at it the wrong way

  • Cid

    Perhaps the Mayans(since they spent much time studying the stars) knew of an event that repeated itself in long intervals(i.e. a passing comet or binary companion to our Sun)and this was incorporated into how they kept track of time and dates. I respect those who want to deny any such possibilities in their desire to stay optimistic, but you can’t believe everyone that claims to be an expert in a given field. If something cataclysmic is about to happen do not expect any government to inform it’s ppl of such an event because there’s simply not enough resources to protect everyone. To make public the possibilities of a celestial event that has the potential to cause cataclysmic events would cause global pandemonium. So hope for the best but expect the worst. Just check out how many volcanoes have become active in the past year, plus the increase in seismic activity, you will see something is changing.
    “There have been, and will be again, many
    destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest
    have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other
    lesser ones by innumerable other causes. There is a story, which
    even you have preserved, that once upon a time Paethon, the son of
    Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father’s chariot, because he
    was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all
    that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.
    Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of
    the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great
    conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long
    intervals” from Timaeus by Plato

  • Henry

    If it happened every 26000 years it would have happened thousands of times in the history of the Earth, including a history that contains homo sapiens, and there would be geological record of the events.

  • Cid

    The timeline for such events may not coincide with the 26,000 year count of the Mayans. The Sumerians(coincidentally) used a 3600 year count called a ‘sar’. And yes, there is geological evidence of a cyclic event that causes great geological stress to our planet on a global scale. ‘Michel R. Legrand and Robert J. Delmas of Laboratoire de Glaciologie et Geophysique de l’Environment published an article “Soluble Impurities in Four Antarctic Ice Cores Over the Last 30,000 Years” in Annals of Glaciology (10, 1988, pp 116-120)’
    Ice core studies have proven to coincide with tree rings so scientist are starting to realize it’s an exact science, and roughly every 3600 years they run into a layer of ash, of which shows the earth undergoing much change due to increased volcanic activity. ‘Something’ triggers the increase in volcanic activity, and with increased volcanic activity comes increased seismic activity causing many cataclysmic events for man to endure.

  • PeterL

    If somehow this comes to be, I think it’s very improbable, I like to think of the Pet Shop Boys song “We’ll make good pets”. 🙂

  • Henry

    Sumerian writings date back more than 3000 years ago, they built upon the civilization of the Ubaidians who date back 4000 to 4500 years ago. If there is an apocalyptic event every 3600, then where is it within this history? Or did we skip one?

  • Very informative post. Less than a year and we\’ll find out for sure.