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Melba Ketchum Bigfoot DNA Results To Be Published: And A New Video

Submitted by on February 13, 2013 – 8:54 AM15 Comments | 3,864 views

Last week brought the latest bit of drama surrounding Rick Dyer, Musky Allen, another dead probably fake Bigfoot and a battle of words between Musky Allen and Dr. Jeff Meldrum.

This week offers up the next chapter in the Melba Ketchum drama around the release of her Bigfoot DNA results, Bigfoot Evidence 101 and Dyer go on the attack to try and discredit her as the merry go round comes ’round again to see who will pull the brass ring?

Whoa, getting a little dizzy myself so lets slow it down.

I attended the Pacific Northwest Primal People conference in 2012 where Ketchum was announced to be releasing her results. Instead of those results, Ketchum, who could not be present in person, did a presentation over the phone with accompanying power point on the process that she developed and used to analyze the DNA samples, and gave examples of that process as it has been used and accepted in court. You can review that experience HERE.

In November 2012, results were leaked and a press release made the rounds announcing that Bigfoot was part HUMAN!
Yes, you read that correctly. It has been a theory suggestion that has been passed around the Bigfoot fringe (yes, even the search for Bigfoot has its fringe) and in my opinion raises serious questions, BUT the rock was thrown and the hornets nest was roused, and my opinion is just that, an opinion based upon incomplete information.

You can read that press release HERE.

Oh then Russian Yeti researchers joined the cast of characters and someone opened a bottle of Vodka and memories of the party get a little hazy, but in the morning a lot of people were left with a bad taste in their mouth, a big headache and the nagging feeling in the back of their minds that it was not over yet.

Things got quiet on the Ketchum front. Until yesterday Feb 12, 2013 (what is being called The Year of the Bigfoot). Ketchum made the following post on her Facebook page:

Melba Ketchum
BUCKLE UP!!!!!!!!!!

It seems there is to be an announcement that Dr. Ketchum’s results are to be printed in DeNovo Scientific Journal, a publication specializing in Genetics research. According to the DeNovo website:

DeNovo Publishing and Genomics Foundation primarily focuses its research efforts on biology, genetics, science and research.

Referees are a key component to maintaining the integrity of research and publishing.

Sounds good, except. Dr. Ketchum’s paper seems to be the first thing this publication will publish. And that seems odd to quite a few people. Does this discredit her work? Not by itself. If the work is sound and the peer review is legitimate, it is credible. Bigfoot Evidence 101 is making the allegation that Dr. Ketchum is behind DeNovo as a means of self publishing.

Ketchum had this to offer:

It has been a long and tedious battle to prove that Sasquatch exists. We have had the proof for nearly 5 years but building enough data to convince mainstream science has taken a lot of time. Trying to publish has taken almost two years. It seems mainstream science just can’t seem to tolerate something controversial, especially from a group of primarily forensic scientists and not “famous academians” aligned with large universities, even though most of our sequencing and analysis was performed at just such facilities.
We encountered the worst scientific bias in the peer review process in recent history. I am calling it the “Galileo Effect”. Several journals wouldn’t even read our manuscript when we sent them a pre-submission inquiry. Another one leaked our peer reviews. We were even mocked by one reviewer in his peer review. We did finally pass peer review with a relatively new journal. It took a fresh outlook on the part of the editors… and their careful selection of reviewers with knowledge of next generation whole genome sequencing in order to pass. I have no idea who the reviewers were though I have the reviews. That was kept confidential as is the way journals handle peer reviews. That was only part of the delay and problems associated with publication though. After this journal agreed to publish the manuscript, their legal counsel advised them not to publish a manuscript on such a controversial subject as it would destroy the editors’ reputations (as it has already done to mine). I have documentation on all of this drama. So, rather than spend another five years just trying to find a journal to publish and hoping that decent, open minded reviewers would be chosen, we acquired the rights to this journal and renamed it so we would not lose the passing peer reviews that are expected by the public and the scientific community. Denovo, the new journal is aimed at offering not only more choices and better service to scientists wanting to submit a manuscript, but also reviewers and editors that will be fair, unlike the treatment we have received. We furthermore have adhered to all of the standards set here in the link below, especially since the entire review and agreement to publish was done at the previous journal:

We do not yet have access to results. However there are going to be serious questions about conflict of interest where Dr. Ketchum admits having a financial interest in the publication of her own work. She also offered a link to a related article. The case made in the excerpt below is NOT to be confused with Dr. Ketchum’s situation expressed above, it is merely another relevant case.

You can read the full article at Publication Ethics

The issue here basically revolves around whether it is acceptable for editors to publish their own work in their journals; if it is, then the review process must be made as transparent and rigorous as possible. Certainly there are examples of editors publishing studies in their own journals, particularly in those circumstances where the choice of journals is limited, as in this case. Provided every effort is made to minimise any bias in the review process by having another associate editor handle the peer review procedure independently of the editor (recognising that it would be impossible to remove bias completely), and the process is absolutely transparent, then this would be the most appropriate route to take. It was suggested that the editor send the article out for review without any names on it, but he said the subject field was so narrow and specialised that any reviewer would know who had written the paper. As an extra precaution, if and when the article in question is published, the editor might like to publish an accompanying commentary showing how transparent the reviewing process had been.
Follow up:

The editor was grateful for the advice which is now journal policy.

Here is the official announcement of publication of the results of the study of DNA from the creature alternatley called Bigfoot, or Sasquatch in North America:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

THREE BIGFOOT GENOMES SEQUENCED IN 5-YEAR DNA STUDY

New Research Paper Published Friday Shows Homo Sapiens/Unknown Hominin Hybrid Species Extant in North America

DALLAS, February 10th –A team of scientists will publish their five-year long study of DNA samples from a novel hominin species, commonly known as “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” on Friday February 15th, 2013. The results suggest that the legendary Sasquatch is extant in North America and is a human relative that arose approximately 13,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an novel primate species.

The study, “Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies,” was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology. The team, led by Dr. Melba Ketchum of DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, TX, included Dr. Pat Wojtkiecicz, Director of the North Louisiana Criminalistics Laboratory; Ms. Aliece Watts of Integrated Forensic Laboratories in Euless, TX; Mr. David Spence, Trace Evidence Supervisor at Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences; Dr. Andreas K. Holzenburg, Director of the Microscopy & Imaging Center at Texas A&M University; Dr. Douglas G. Toler of Huguley Pathology Consultants in Fort Worth, TX; Dr. Thomas M. Prychitko of Wayne State University in Michigan; Dr. Fan Zhang of the University of North Texas Health Science Center; and Sarah Bollinger, Ray Shoulders, and Ryan Smith of DNA Diagnostics.

In total, 110 specimens of purported Sasquatch hair, blood, skin, and other tissue types were analyzed for the study. Samples were submitted by individuals and groups at 34 different hominin research sites in 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces. Ketchum’s team sequenced 20 whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes, as well as 3 whole nuclear genomes, from the samples.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comes from mitochondria, energy-producing organelles in the cellular cytoplasm, and is passed down on the maternal lineage across generations. Nuclear DNA (nuDNA) is the genetic information contained in the cell nucleus and is the equal combination of DNA from the parents of an individual.

Initially a skeptic, Ketchum implemented strict protocols to ensure the scientific integrity of the study. DNA samples from submitters and scientists working with study specimens were obtained for use as controls. DNA was extracted from samples using forensic procedures to prevent contamination. Forensics experts examined the morphology of the submitted hair samples against known human and animal samples before beginning DNA testing. “We soon discovered that certain hair samples–which we would later identify as purported Sasquatch samples–had unique morphology distinguishing them from typical human and animal samples,” says Ketchum. “Those hair samples that could not be identified as known animal or human were subsequently screened using DNA testing, beginning with sequencing of mitochondrial DNA followed by sequencing nuclear DNA to determine where these individuals fit in the ‘tree of life.’”

After extensive forensic controls to prevent contamination, mtDNA testing of the Sasquatch samples yielded fully modern human profiles. Sixteen haplotypes indicating 100% homology with modern human mtDNA sequences were observed from 20 completed whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes. The human mtDNA results are consistent with prior, unrelated mtDNA tests of purported Sasquatch samples from other laboratories.

Next-generation whole genome sequencing with the HiSeq 2000 platform by Illumina was performed at the University of Texas, Southwestern on one tissue sample, a saliva sample and one blood sample to produce 3 whole genomes. In contrast to the mtDNA which was unambiguously modern human, the Sasquatch nuDNA results were a mosaic of novel primate and human sequence.

“While the three Sasquatch nuclear genomes aligned well with one another and showed significant homology to human chromosome 11 which is highly conserved in primates, the Sasquatch genomes were novel and fell well outside of known ancient hominin as well as ape sequences,” explains Ketchum. “Because some of the mtDNA haplogroups found in our Sasquatch samples originated as late as 13,000 years ago, we are hypothesizing that the Sasquatch are human hybrids, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.”

Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo.

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“Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies.”
Authors: Ketchum MS, Wojtkiewicz PW, Watts AB, Spence DW, Holzenburg AK, Toler DG, Prychitko TM, Zhang F, Bollinger S, Shoulders R, Smith R.
Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology. 11 January 2013.

Specimens yielding DNA were obtained, purportedly from elusive hominins in North America called Sasquatch. Sequencing and genotyping were performed in addition to histopathologic and electron microscopic examination of a large tissue sample.

NEWS

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TUESDAY

2/13/2013

Title:

Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies

Author(s):

Ketchum, M. S., Wojtkiewicz, P. W., Watts, A. B., Spence, D. W., Holzenburg, A. K., Toler, D. G., Prychitko, T. M., Zhang, F., Bollinger, S., Shoulders, R., Smith, R. (2013)

Keywords: Species Identification, Human DNA Identification, Forensic Hair Analysis, Electron Microscopy, Next Generation Whole Genome Sequencing, Mitochondrial DNA

If you would like to get the official 63 page report you can do so for $30 at the Denovo Journal Website.
Excited yet?

Along side this story is the release of video of an immature female named Mathilda who was found sleeping. In this video there is clear sign that the creature is breathing.

This video is shown with permission of and under copyright to Sasquatch Genome Project

Some days it just does not get easier to bring stories of the unexplained

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It is going to get a whole lot weirder before anything is settled.

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I would like nothing more than the proof of various cryptids, alien civilizations, even alien visitors to be found. But that proof will come only through rigorous science and objective analysis, and by holding evidence to the highest standards of scrutiny. Born in south eastern Pennsylvania, i have found myself at one time or another living in Chicago, Cleveland, Raleigh-Durham, on the island of Kaua'i and finally landed on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington State. I have turned my hand to various professions from early work in 3d graphics to historic building restoration, carpentry and log home building to working in a bronze art foundry on the WWII Veterans Memorial. Currently I am a writer, script writer and working for a non profit organization called Empowerment Through Connection which is involved in equine assisted therapy for veterans, at risk teens and women.

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  • Scott_McMan

    Henry, as you and I have both said in the past, this is not going to convince mainstream science. Only a live or dead body will do the trick.

    As for Mathilda, I’ve seen that video in private and it’s inconclusive as to what we are actually seeing.

    I’d love to say hooray for Bigfoot, but this is merely going to keep the Bigfoot community looking and talking. The mainstream will continue to scoff.

    One thing I can say for sure, you sir have done a first rate article here!

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

     I agree absolutely about the final proof, and this is only going to inspire more jack asses to go out in the woods hunting for that payoff.

    Probably the best that can be hoped for from this publication is a toe hold on legitimacy to even start a scientific search.

    The video, yup, showed it to my wife and her response was “That could be Captain.” (my lab/setter mix)

    And thanks. I wrote a lot of this last night at 1 am as it was happening.

  • Scott_McMan

     There is a rumor going around that the Ericson film shows Bigfoot young eating candy, playing with toys and smoking cigarettes. Of course I find all of that hard to believe. If that were true, there’s no way he’d keep it under wraps, especially with the purported financial problems he’s said to have. He’d be uber rich almost instantly after the release.

    My buddy had a dog named Tippy when we were kids. Tippy looked exactly like the alleged sleeping Bigfoot. So yes, I was thinking dog as well.

  • ghosttheory

    Totally agree with you guys on this one. I can see why Ketchum had a difficult time with the peer reviews after reading this.

    The best outcome would be a secured multimillion dollar grant for a scientific research project on Bigfoot.

    Good stuff.

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

    They have decided to go public with the short clip video so it is back.

    As to the circus act that is rumored? There are lots of rumors going around right now. None of that behavior is in this clip.

  • Mike Jaimeyfield

    In short, mainstream science, which is controlled by 10 or so Ivy League schools and the heads of their Departments, for years, and most recently denied categorically, that “Bigfoot” exists. This point blank denial of even the possibility of their existence or their refusal to even consider it has a topic of study, shows how tall and thick the walls of academic acceptance are! These old and stuffy academics are more concerned with their reputations than advancing human knowledge. In order for her to be taken seriously, a well known researcher or journal would have to endorse a study or publish a paper. However, history will show Dr. Ketchum was the first.      

  • News Reporter

    Oxana Malaya in a suit. Google her. Video is not credible. I always have reservations when scientists perform studies in private. I have problems with the lies global warming scientists have been dumping on the public. Does anyone know if she attempted to work with other DNA scientists in separate scientific environments? Unless they found donors to sponsor the costs, she would have every right to charge $30. I doubt a group of snooty elitist scientists would review her findings. No one knows what these academia scientists do all day except travel to luxury locations to hold weekly seminars and email each other humor links. They are too busy chasing billions in government grants promoting political agendas to be taken serious by me. The risk takers who buck the establishment always have my attention. I give Dr Ketchum the benefit of the doubt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.hopper Anthony Hopper

    As noted in the press (and I think on this website as well), a research team from Oxford University and the Lusanne Museum of Zoology are (or will soon be) performing DNA tests on supposed bigfoot specimens (hair, fecal matter, etc.).  This team’s results, whatever they might be, will carry a lot of weight in the scientific community.  I think it is also safe to assume that the researchers will follow strict protocols and that (regardless of the researchers’ personal opinions/beliefs) their results will be objective.  It will be interesting to see what they come up (or don’t come up) with…

  • Zeph

    If the Sasquatch Genome Project (copyright holder for the video) is essentially Ketchum et al, then it would seem to me that releasing the video at the same time muddies the waters.  They would do better to keep the analysis within the technical and relatively objective and scientific confines of genetic testing, without seeming to get into the popular controversy of “yet another inconclusive video”.

    One thing which I didn’t catch – are they saying that every alledged sample analyzed turned to to indeed be Sasquatch and was used in the statistical results?  Not a single mistaken sample had to be excluded?  That seems remarkable.

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

    The sample of a longer video was reportedly taken by a team that located a group of creatures from which some of the samples tested were taken. I failed to include that information in the article.

    Not every sample tested proved to be the supposed unknown homonid. Many turned out to be known creatures, but those that were not known creatures were further tested to obtain the results published.

  • Charles Bootjer

    I was pleased
    when I became aware of the ongoing DNA research that was underway and
    the new groundbreaking efforts that were being made by Dr. Melba
    Ketchum in Texas. I followed the numerous websites and radio
    interviews that were commenting about this research, and was very
    gladdened by the December 24th Coast to Coast AM Interview with Dr.
    Ketchum.

    I have taken note
    of the fact that numerous highly opinionated individuals, who are
    Skeptics, have almost always made derogatory comments to the effect
    that the DNA findings must necessarily be flawed by some form of
    contamination for the results of the research to have shown the
    presence of Human Mitochondrial DNA in the samples that were in the
    Study

    Dr. Ketchum spoke
    in reply to the matter of sample contamination many times, and
    detailed the efforts that were being made to forestall that problem.
    The Skeptics were obviously not listening clearly, because they
    continued to rail that there absolutely must have been contamination
    of the DNA Samples that were used in this Study, all 109 of them.

    The true facts
    seem to be that an enormous amount of care had been taken by Dr.
    Melba Ketchum and her highly skilled associates, who used State of
    the Art Forensic Techniques to prevent even the remotest possibility
    of that happening, and my reading of the Study confirmed the rather
    obvious conclusion that most of the skeptics had unquestionably
    jumped to their conclusions without any real factual evidence, as
    usual.

    The work done by
    the University of Texas Southwestern at Dallas has revealed that the
    three samples that Dr. Ketchum had submitted for Nuclear DNA
    sequencing were of very high quality, and highly purified, and
    capable of providing very valid results, using the Illumina Next
    Generation Sequencing Platform, with a statistical probability
    greater than 1:1000 of being correctly sequenced.

    Obviously these
    were not “Contaminated Samples” as the Skeptics contended that
    they must have been.

    PLEASE TAKE
    NOTICE OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, As reported in the PRweb Seattle
    WA at http://www.seattlepi.com, :

    “The team, led
    by Dr. Melba S. Ketchum, DVM, of DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, TX,
    submitted a tissue sample, a saliva sample, and a blood sample to
    the DNA Laboratory at the University of Texas, Southwestern, who
    then sequenced the Three whole Nuclear Genomes using the
    Next-Generation Illumina HiSeq 2000 Platform. The University lab
    reported that the three genomes all attained Q30 quality scores above
    88 on the Illumina Platform, which is significantly higher than the
    Platform average of 85, indicating highly-purified, single-source DNA
    with no contamination for each sample. The three Sasquatch genomes
    were reported to align well with one-another and show substantial
    homology to primate sequences.”

    NOTE: The
    important fact to observe is that the three Q30 Scores of these three
    Genomes, with over 90 Gb of Raw seqence for each sample, (Comprising
    greater than 30x coverage), were 88.6, 88.4 and 88.7 respectively.
    The Q30 is the percent of reads that have the statistical probability
    greater than 1:1000 of being correctly sequenced. According to
    Illumina, a pure single source sample would have a Q30 score of 80 or
    greater, with an average Q30 score of 85. Contaminated or multiple
    source samples would have Q30 scores of 40 to 50.

    Therefore, not
    only were the three samples that were submitted for sequencing, each
    determined to be totally UNCONTAMINATED and were from a single
    source, and the resultant quality of the sequences that were obtained
    from them was FAR ABOVE the average 85 score of the Genomes sequenced
    using the Illumina Next Generation Sequencing Platform at the
    UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS Southwestern in Dallas, Texas. A Further comment
    made about the samples was: “The high quality of the Genomes can
    be attributed to the STRINGENT EXTRACTION PROCEDURES UTILIZED WHEREBY
    THE DNA WAS REPEATEDLY PURIFIED”. Dr. Ketchum obviously did a
    very good job of providing high quality samples that were capable of
    providing scientifically valid results.

    NOTE: It would
    appear that the University of Texas Southwestern’s DNA Laboratory is
    rather sure that these are good Genomes, and that they were tested to
    be of very high quality.

    How could you ask
    for much more than that?

    One Genome would
    be more than adequate to prove the existence of a new species. Three
    Genomes is gross OVERKILL. It is a NEW Species.

    You will not be
    able to find any qualified Geneticist who can argue with the
    spectacular results produced by the UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS DNA
    Laboratory. NOT WITH THOSE HIGH Q30 scores.

    New species have
    been accepted by Science with as little as 16 Kb.

    Just a very small
    number of base pairs. The sample size here was 90 Gb for each of
    three samples. See the Supplementary Data 7-10

    I believe that
    this groundbreaking DNA Study was done with very great care and that
    the resultant findings are now thoroughly capable of proving to even
    the most diehard, outspoken Skeptics, that there is incontrovertible
    PROOF that there is an unclassified Biped roaming North America.

    This evidence is
    backed up by the substantial work that has been done at instituions
    like The University of Texas at Dallas, Texas A & M University,
    and several other academic institutions and Professional
    Laboratories.

    Dr. Ketchum and
    her esteemed colleagues are to be heartily commended for the
    dedication that they have shown in the face of derision from the mass
    attacks by huge numbers of Naysayers, Skeptics and Fools.

    I urge everyone
    interested, and especially hardcore Skeptics to take the time to read
    this amazing DNA Study and to become aware of the incredible quality
    of the Science behind it.

    Being a skeptic
    does not require that you cannot accept valid Scientific studies,
    that are done with a great deal of care and appropriate attention to
    detail by highly skilled professionals, at highly accredited
    institutions of Higher Learning!

    My kudos to the
    BRAVE DNA researchers who refused to give up and quit. They will go
    down in History! The Skeptics will have an eternal meal of CROW PIE.
    I hope they enjoy it. I would imagine it has a bitter taste!

    Bigfoot Believer
    3/18/13

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

    I believe one of the conflicts rests on the fact that while DNA sample of lower quality have been enough to scientifically distinguish a new species in the past, those samples were addressed in conjunction with a specimen either living or dead. Here we have no specimen. Also since many of the samples were produced by members of the public without controls on how those samples were retrieved the door is open for contamination to be the case.

    I have heard Ketchum speak about her process, and no one will be more content to have the skepticism shot down with this study than I, but certain unfortunate events surrounding the release of her results have turned the study into a circus where the perception of bigfoot in much of the mainstream scientific community as well as the public was already at best mythical and at worst hallucinatory. Mainstream science can be very sluggish, especially in the face of a controversial subject and that is going to make proof of any kind an uphill battle. Proof that the creature is a human hybrid is a steep hill. I can applaud Ketchum for her conviction in the accuracy of her process and eagerly anticipate confirmation of her findings, but whatever the results, controversy will continue until there is physical evidence.

  • Old_Politico

    If Dr. Ketchum’s results hold up, that will be a serious problem for Lloyd Pye. Perhaps best known for his association with the so-called Starchild skull, Pye has been advancng the theory that Sasquatch and other similar creatures reported around the world are remnant populations of four pre-human hominids known from the fossil record but thought to be long extinct.

    There is also a political dimension to this alleged human DNA link. Are such creatures to be accorded civil rights? Can they be prosecuted for crimes?.Will they be recognized as coming under the  Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act preventing research on a body or skeleton if one is ever found (remember Kennewick Man)? 

    We’ll have to stay tuned for the European results to learn more, I guess. 

  • BW

     Your second paragraph poses an interesting question.  My guess is that if any such creature is ever positively sampled for DNA with a well-controlled evaluation process, they would probably turn out to be more simian than human.  And, well, we’ve all seen how much respect the great apes get from poachers, the bush meat trade, etc.  Although I am fascinated by the prospect of their existence, it is probably best for such creatures to remain shrouded in the mists of legend.

    Cheers

    BW

  • KQ1069

    This study was done with physical evidence collected by witnesses of these animals. It’s funny how we can prosecute or free people in our courts with this type of work, but because it is dealing with this topic, we can’t accept looking at it. She asked for all, and anyone in the field to scrutinize it, and help her. She is not trying to hide anything, fake anything, or do this all by herself by choice. Her curiosity as a scientist took her to a place she now wishes she had not gone. And as she stated, the facts are right there, go ahead and disprove them. I love how she puts it out their for anyone and they close their minds to it and turn it around on her as though she is some isolated scientific mad person going against real science. Sad that they just can’t look at what she has done, scrutinize it and bring it to debate.