Sylvanic Bigfoot: Mystery Solved?
When I wrote the post entitled “Sylvanic Bigfoot, What’s The Story?” I intended to gather information from the community about this ambiguous case. I was curious if there were any recent updates or press releases.
Todd Standing has been saying for years that he knows of a secret valley which lies somewhere in the border of the United States and Canada called “Sylvanic”, a name given by the “locals”. In this valley, Mr. Standing claims that he has encountered a group of Bigfoot like creatures and has even filmed some of them during past expeditions.
My original post was to hear from the community and possibly Todd himself about new developments or new evidence of the existence of Sylvanic. Evidence being the keyword. I did get in contact with Todd, who emailed me to thank me for the unbiased post that I did.
Since I had so many questions about this whole case I wanted to see if I could setup an email interview. I asked if he would be willing to do an interview for GhostTheory to which he agreed. After collecting a few questions from the other editors at GhostTheory, I fired them off to Todd and awaited for a response. I’m still waiting…..
In a interesting turn of events, one GhostTheory reader who goes by “MultipleEncounters” or ME, started to do some investigative work on his end. The information he uncovered puts Todd Standing in a different light. Let me quickly add that my interest in this is to present an unbiased report. The information that was collected by myself and ME can be verifiable.
One of the first red flags is in the name “Slyvanic”. Todd’s website said that this is the name the “locals” had given this hidden valley. A couple of GhostTheory readers had this to say:
Mortis says:
January 5, 2010 at 5:31 PM (Edit)
Hmm, Pennsylvania – sylvania a latin word meaning of the forest or woods. Sylvanic, sylvania. Not too difficult to see a relationship here. Don’t think it is of some Native word and therefore don’t believe in this tripe. There are better things to pay attention to.Bruce Mills says:
January 7, 2010 at 8:52 PM (Edit)
I find it interesting that Standing’s so-called “native people” appear to have a grasp of Latin (sylvan- coming from Sylvanus, “woodland deity)!
I guess classical training has proliferated farther than I had imagined! Hmmm …
Freedictionary.com says:
syl·van also sil·van (slvn)
adj.
1. Relating to or characteristic of woods or forest regions.
2. Located in or inhabiting a wood or forest.
3. Abounding in trees; wooded.
n.
One that lives in or frequents the woods.
[Medieval Latin sylvnus, from Latin Silvnus, god of the woods, from silva, forest.]
Given the fact that Sylvanic is derived from the latin Sylvus, it is suspicious that native people in the United States would have given this valley a Latin name. This is not concrete evidence of Todd being deceitful since many places in the United States do have Latin origins like California. One could say that Todd was confused as to the origin of the name or who exactly had initially named this place. Let us continue…
I then started to see several comments originated from the same computer or network using different name handles and emails. These comments were pro Sylvanic in nature. These comments were originated from British Columbia, Canada.
Author : Tracey (IP: 75.155.73.92 , d75-155-73-92.abhsia.telus.net)
E-mail : *****@hotmail.com
Comment:
With all the research Standing has done and spent years working on with his team, I would think serious bigfoot believers would understand the immense cost involved. He has never made any money, donating cash to humane societies. It is my guess he needs funds to further research, as sort of indicated on his site.That aside, getting biologists involved can be so difficult. People always talk the talk but when it’s time to get in action, so many fail to bring it. It is my understanding that this is why Standing has gone to journalists, they can make the discovery VERY public and hopefully hurry along the species protection Standing is trying to gain before revealing their location.
Kudos to Standing, I think he is doing a great job and needs more support and encouragement, not rude comments from derogatory, narrow-minded individuals who have never so much as been in the forest and have no idea what they are talking about.
Author : Louise (IP: 75.155.73.92 , d75-155-73-92.abhsia.telus.net)
E-mail : ****@gmail.com
Comment:
As the writer writing this NOVEL, I must say there are always skeptics and doubters. I have all of Todd’s information and evidence, much of which has never been released and will not be without species protection. I agree with him that the species would be threatened if he gave out this info.The problem with evidence, in my opinion, is that for real conclusive and irrefutable evidence you MUST provide a genuine body. Without that, no skeptic, including governments will accept the reality of them. Todd works towards finding a body and until such a time, there will always be those who just don’t believe.
It’s nice to see such diversified opinions on this board!
Author : mark (IP: 75.155.73.92 , d75-155-73-92.abhsia.telus.net)
E-mail : ****@gmail.com
Comment:
I bought both videos a couple of days ago after reading these articles. I think their great. The website explains alot, and i listened to his interview on sasquatch radio from the 28th of dec. the link is here http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sasquatchwatchradio/2009/12/29/sasquatch-watch-radio-todd-standing-of-sylvanicI hope he finds a body and proves all you nay sayers wrong.
Given that these all originated from Canada and the same network and possibly the same computer, we can deduce that these comments are from someone who is either doing Todd Standing’s PR or this is Todd Standing himself. If this is the case then it is really suspect how the author “Mark” made the comment talk about how great the DVDs that are on sale on the Sylvanic website are.
If there really are these creatures out there in a secret location and Todd Standing wants to protect them, why is he worrying about building up the PR for himself and trying to sell DVDs?
I would assume that his top priorities would be to get evidence first. Evidence that can be verifiable by the scientific community.
Let us now focus on ME’s investigation. (I know it’s long, but it is well investigated)
ME says:
January 11, 2010 at 4:30 AMHi Javier,
Go to this page and scroll about half way down and read the post by MultipleEncounters which outlines some major inconsistencies and contradictions on the part of Mr. Standing over the last 5 years.
http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=124725&threadid=2151193&page=2
ME says:
January 11, 2010 at 4:53 PMHi Gary,
Yeah I am ME.
Re his hiring actors, once again that’s a very old issue he has sidetracked in past questions to him by others. The original add is long gone, but if you look to this web archive site, you can still see his original ad there.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050603085529/http://www.mediamag.ca/April2005.htm
That was his phone number then as it was corroborated at whois.net for Sylvanic.com. He has apparently changed his number since then however, but I do have a screen capture of that original page as I do the present one. And if you google that complete phone number (…-5296), you will see other corroboration still referenced on the net.
Ironically, (and I just discovered this) but if you do look at whois.net, http://whois.domaintools.com/sylvanic.com, you will also see that his Administrative Contact is Todd Standing, (nothing special there) but with his email address is louise@… Louise, can we assume you are doing more then just writing his NOVEL? You wouldn’t be ‘Lil Sis’ would you be? Better yet, you wouldn’t be Todd himself are you? lol
And re ‘Lil Sis’, it’s not so much that she took the video or credits, but that he has slowly & methodically removed her from being present on that so-called ‘expedition’ for very suspicious reasons relating to story believability. You don’t just change history claims to suit what makes a better story as time passes. If you also note on his main page today, it says the four on that trip were:
“In 2005 our initial group consisted of a cooperation of 4 people: a biologist from Great Falls, Montana; a Cree Nations elder representing the First Nations People; the skeptic Todd Standing; and a paramedic fire fighter from Calgary, Alberta.”
I also wouldn’t ‘assume’ that his claim of a Cree Elder now being along on that original trip, means that the Cree are who named Sylvanic either. Unless of course Todd would like to confirm which tribe Sylvanic originates from one way or another?
Sigmound, did you actually see this statement somewhere about it taking 10 days to get there? “So why do you have to hike 10 days and be in the shape of an Olympian?” Thanks!
ME says:
January 11, 2010 at 5:38 PMHmm, one more little interesting tidbit I just pieced together. And this may further answer your question too Gary.
Jeese Louise, so, R U Todd’s Little Sister?
I also see the web site for Todd Standing is Louise@ outSTANDINGproductions, IS a production company. The name outSTANDING… would that by chance have an affiliation to the last name of Todd ‘Standing’? :^) The company IS listed as his email address at Whois.net after all.
http://www.outstandingproductions.ca/sources/flash/index_new.html
Oh what a tangled web we weave.
ME says:
January 11, 2010 at 10:25 PMWell, well, well, lookie here.
http://ca.linkedin.com/in/louisestanding
Lil’ Sis, we have missed you so much. Mean old Todd never gave you the credit due in that First Expedition where it was YOU who caught all that magnificent footage of them hairy beasts up on the hill. Then he wrote you out of the script. Don’t you just hate when that happens in your industry, especially after such a grueling long trek into the wilderness land of Sylvanic, North America.
And so it seems, Louise IS ‘Louise Standing’. She looks to be about the right age too. Oh and one of her interests just happens to be ‘Makeup Art’ too. Hmmm…
And don’t you guys just love the way she said the above?:
“Louise says:
January 7, 2010 at 4:23 AM
Henry, his petition for protection in canada was heard before the house of commons. I’ve personally seen it on it the news. In the US he is just beginning his petition…”She’s personally “seen it on the news”! I bet she has. It seems that storytelling runs in the family. You guys ever heard of a shill? I believe there were a few of them on the Unexplained Mysteries forum too when Standing was posting there.
And the house of cards comes crashing down.
ME says:
January 12, 2010 at 12:00 AMMy oh my, it just keeps getting better.
It does seem Lil’ Sis has grown up to be a very big and ‘talented’ girl. And all big girls have Facebook pages don’t they?
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&gid=60021870638
But so do big brothers, or did. Scroll down on the left column of her page and click on ‘Todd’ in Officers. Oh don’t worry Louise & Todd, I’ve already archived your pages for “Educational Purposes” of course.
Look at the URL of the ‘Todd’ page you clicked. Yep, it does say Todd Standing in the URL. Hmmm
http://www.facebook.com/todd.standing
But just who is Todd Rockwell, the Director of OutStanding Productions? But again, it says Todd Standing in the URL at the top of the page? Hmmm? Again
And to corroborate something more, Todd Rockwell is stated as the Director on the Outstanding Productions Website under Contacts.
http://www.outstandingproductions.ca/sources/flash/index_new.html
Just what could all this mean? Now I am beginning to ask: Who is Todd Standing, or is that Todd Rockwell? My My, it is all so confusing.
And Louise, just how many years have you been involved in Film Production AND Makeup Art?
As Ricky Ricardo used to say: “Louise (I know, its Lucy), You have some splainin’ to do!”.
Of course Louise also calls Todd her slave on Facebook too. Hmmm… :^) (Had to mention that for fun)
And the next BIG question is: Is Todd Rockwell and Todd Standing one and the same? Stay Tuned.
So what are we to make of the comments that seemed to have been done by the same person in favor of Todd Standing and his project? or the fact that Todd Standing has a video production company and has hired someone who, we found out is his sister to write a book about this and help with the video production and DVDs that are on sale on the Sylvanic website?
Regardless all the contradictory descriptions of Todd’s description of Sylvanic, it’s important to ask why reaching out to the press seems like the ideal thing to do when making extraordinary claims. Remember the Johor Hominid incident? or the Georgia Bigfoot?
Mr. Todd Standing, can you comment on what has been uncovered by our readers?
Written by Javier Ortega - javier@ghosttheory.com
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Nice work people. I can’t wait for the third part of this series. Too many of these out to make a bucksters are running a muck in this world. KUDOS!!!!
Maybe Todd has multiple personality disorder. You have to be a flaming narcissist to think this stuff would never be found out. I guess it’s all part of the disorder.
I was skeptical of Standing but I could never be completely sure. In other words I was giving him TBOTD for these past few years.
It would seem that Todd’s standing is starting to crumble. Lets see if he comes back with a response.
You know Javier, we’re going to get a reputation that is typically reserved for giants like ATS.com. Who’d a thunk a little website like this would be exposing those that live to mislead? The best part is that it’s never done with malice or with backhanded tactics. I’ve always liked your open minded attitude. Never trying to hurt anyone but always seeking the truth.
Good Morning Javier,
I wonder if Mr. Standing and his highly trained ‘Team’ are out on Expedition? After all, according to him on a recent radio show, they head into the wilderness once a week now. They are very dedicated extreme outdoors-persons ya know! Who knows, they could be gone for weeks or even months this time. I do admire them for risking their lives trekking into the remote wilds of Sylvanic tho. I have heard that hundreds, even thousands of people have dared to venture there and never been seen alive again. It must be a grueling and difficult hardship out there where mere mortal men dare not to go. I wonder if Lil’ Sis (Louise) has joined them on this probable final journey? If so, be careful out there Lil’ Sis and Todd. And when you have doubts, remember to follow truth because truth will prevail in the end.
@jbondo
little? LITTLE?…. just playing. GhostTheory is chugging along though. We are hitting between 2,000-3,500 visits a day.
I think its the culminating efforts of the editors and the critical thinking readers that help solve these mysteries.
Although I’m still awaiting Mr. Standing’s response to these discoveries.
-Javier
@ME
Morning sir.
Let’s hope Todd and/or his sister do address these issues. At this point, thanks to your work, it’s not looking good for them
-Javier
ME, anything new on Mr Standing and his ordeals?
Please update us when possible.
Thanks for your effort!
/JP
Nothing more to add at this time JP. However I do hear tell that Sylvanic is a pretty cold & lonely place this time of year.
Javier, just in case some may not realize it, I think it’s important to point out, those messages from Mark, Tracy, and Louise, ARE from the same server, but using IP Address (75.155.73.92), which is VERY specific. Meaning coming from either the same home or business location.
I was also able to narrow the IP Address down to the Edmonton area. Looks like you have a cluster of loyal readers Javier all in the same town, which by coincidence is where Mr. Standing is from.
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/75.155.73.92
I’m also hot on another trail so bare with me. May not be until tomorrow because I have other non-bigfoot irons in the fire to address.
Well people, I’ve definitely dug up a few additional juicy morsels of information. There is more beyond this too, but I’m still up to my neck in research.
The material has been archived again (for educational purposes) just in case it goes away.
First up, according to this Government of Alberta page, said company (then name unknown) Inc., was incorporated on December 8, 2002, and changed its name to OutStanding Productions Inc. on January 29, 2003. (Search the page for ‘Outstanding Productions’ or scroll about 3/4 down page).
http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/gazette/2003/text/0228_i.cfm
As previously mentioned, according to Outstanding Production’s website, they are a Professional TV and Video Company. http://www.outstandingproductions.ca/sources/flash/index_new.html Todd Rockwell is the Director, while Louise Greene (’Standing’ according to her personal page), is the General Manager. And of course keep in mind that Todd Rockwell appears to be Todd Standing according to his Facebook and other pages. Of course Sylvanic.com’s Whois.net results, also corroborate the two as being the same person due to the email addresses and names. Why would Todd Standing never be up front about his profession?
OK, so why would someone with a video production company, be using a 3.2 Megapixel camera in the first place? Hmmm In fact, why would they need to go out and rent a 16mm? OutStanding Productions likely has some of the best video equipment available, and probably did so back in 2005 being they were already in existence for a few years. And if the company is that big, the cost of this endeavor and even donating proceeds from a theatre showing, would be a nominal cost of doing business in order to portray just the right image of someone with altruistic goals.
I also found another interesting statement on one of their media pages. I have to wonder if this gives us all a hint into some general motives? You can also see just how diverse this company is.
http://www.technicallypossible.com/outstanding/corporate_identity.jpg
Click to enlarge. At the bottom of the page, they go on to talk about Myths and Legends. On the bottom right section, there is a sentence that reads: “Remember the flipside of the urban legend, most myths, can be used to one’s advantage.” So while they refer to Super Bowl ads, is this a general statement of creating opportunity for oneself? Was bigfoot seen as an opportunity to be used for their advantage?
Now I’m going to do just a little theorizing so bare with me. No allegations being made, just thinking out loud. Say a film producer wanted to make his/her mark in the industry, would something like what we have seen over the last few years help accomplish this? Producers after all, are trying to show off their creativity so they get hired for big jobs. They want to be noticed. This is the nature of the film industry after all. Accomplishing the stated goal and ‘playing the part’, would be quite the triumph for someone’s resume or portfolio with larger production companies wouldn’t it?
I also have this image in my head, while Todd Standing and Todd Rockwell appear by all accounts to be the same person, would a different persona and image materialize with each person? Does Todd Rockwell wear a suit while Todd Standing is as we see him? Is his beard and hair even real? lol Remember, Louise Greene (Standing) does Makeup Art. Again, this are just theorizing questions for now and I make no claims that this is what has been taking place. But it sure does make one wonder doesn’t it?
Well everyone, that’s what I have for now but it should provide food for thought. I will try to have the other finds ready by tonight or tomorrow.
Have a good day!
A note for Todd & Louise: Guys, as I said before, the gig is up. I think your best route now is to come clean. Admit you’ve been found out.
Dave
jbondo:
You know Javier, we’re going to get a reputation that is typically reserved for giants like ATS.com. Who’d a thunk a little website like this would be exposing those that live to mislead? The best part is that it’s never done with malice or with backhanded tactics. I’ve always liked your open minded attitude. Never trying to hurt anyone but always seeking the truth.
Hear hear!!
I thoroughly enjoy everything on your site Javier. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, I love the openmindedness (not sure if that’s proper English but it’s self explanatory I guess) and respect with which you treat all subjects. One of my favourite websites for sure.
OT: Great stuff ME, you are doing all people who are interested in the subject a great favour by smoking out these people. Thanks man!
Personally I find it hard to believe that bigfoot exists, if it had it would have been proven by now, there has to be a sizeable population (thousands? Tens of thousands?) in order for these animals to exist so where are they? There should be so many more sightings than there have been. I love the genuine investigators though, loren coleman from cryptomundo for one.
@ME: You sound like one of those rare genuis types.
Your sentence about other irons in the fire…man..classic!!
Seriously,the fact that you are doing good research on this story, while keeping it light and humorous, Kudos. Big time.
Great work! Keep it up.
Let’s hypothesise Todd Standing genuinely and sincerely believes his claims, (thus setting aside the issue of whether or not such beliefs’re justified), the moment he became convinced of what he’d stumbled on, two thoughts must’ve occurred to his ego : 1) this was such a paradigm busting discovery someone’s name’d be going down in the annals of Science and History for making it; and 2) sooner or later, someone, somewhere’d be making a lot of money off its back.
At that stage his conscience may then’ve realised that as well as what he personally stood to lose, (if the situation wasn’t handled ‘properly’), there was the distinct possibility – if not downright probability – of the whole thing turning into an absolute catastrophe for the actual Bigfoot community itself; at which point sheer paranoia may also’ve kicked in when it dawned on him that if some all powerful interest group like the military/industrial complex were to take the whole show over then they might not only bury the whole story but him as well.
Given such possibilities, then, wouldn’t caginess on his part be justified?
However, after having finally decided to go tentatively public, he may then’ve been shocked by the generally apathetic response to his ‘discovery’, especially when it came to raising funds, at which point he may’ve found himself tempted to pursue the course, say, many a rock band’s resorted to when they’ve first started out, i.e., pretended to be bigger players than they actually are.
Jean-Claude Van Damme, for instance, has freely admitted when he first tried to break into Hollywood, no one’d give him the time of day until he pretended he had a million dollars he wanted to invest in a movie production.
ME makes great play of the production company’s description of itself, assuming all kinds about its facilities and budgetary capacities, but even genuinely successful companies undergo cycles of profitability, (not to mention, for both financial and technical reasons, hire in their equipment), and even if they should prove to have a list of past hot properties, it may be Outstanding’s description of itself, these days, is as much about garnering potential backers and allies, (to pay the overheads as well as fund Bigfoot documentaries).
And why shouldn’t family members, friends and colleagues show their support?
Personally, I have no problem with conceiving the possibility of the scenario Todd Standing claims, but on the basis of the video snippet I’ve seen, I find myself asking why not just show us a few close up, full length or even facial shots, something so vividly compelling that, if nothing else, it’d make me wan’o rush out and buy the videos?
To me that’s the one big bum note – he claims access to a community of Bigfoot, but can provide nothing even remotely comparable to the majesty of Patterson’s magnificent “Patty”.
ME- Outstanding! You are da man! I had forgotten all about Sylvanic until I read Javier’s original post. I remember checking his website out a few years ago and thinking, well, who knows, maybe the guy was on to something. I’m glad I didn’t invest any more time on this guy. ME, like I said, outstanding!
Thanks people, I appreciate the compliments. And no I’m no genius, I just have a life and issues to deal with like everyone.
There were enough red flags with Mr. Standing, the tough part was making sense of it all because it was so damned convoluted and it extended over years. But when he says things like ‘his 35mm & 16mm film was ruined because of magnetic fields’, well, magnetic fields have no affect on that kind of film. The thing is, he would know that too in his field. I don’t understand, maybe he was simply pushing the limits to see how much he could get away with? As in, getting his kicks? Either way, his only real hope now is to come clean because he’s been busted. Show some maturity Todd. You made too many mistakes and now you’re being called out.
Everyone reading this can help too. It is very important that other forums and bloggers become aware of these new developments and share with their readers. If that doesn’t happen, Mr. Standing may just try to come back again after another short break. Many people weren’t around when he made his early claims. I think he counts on that too, whatever the endgame is. A year from now, people need to remember the revelations here and now. With past hoaxers like the Georgia Boys, the bigfoot field can’t afford another fiasco. Remember, he has been pursuing a very public campaign with widespread ramifications to the field. So please, if this matters to you, let others know.
Sasquatch are a real species, and yes, I’ve even had my own encounters. But whatever they ultimately turn out to be, their existence is a major scientific mystery that needs to be handled with some respect. The field cannot be in the control of those with creative or vivid imaginations.
I’ve still got another little find to share, but I haven’t had a chance to work on it today. So stay tuned…
One look at the “Sylvanic” story is enough for the average person to dismiss it as a hoax and never think about it again. Now, years later, you’re still investigating, arguing for and against … I think you’re way too deep into this type of lore. Take a step back and regain some perspective! Life is too short to waste on stuff like “bigfoot in an invisible-or-something valley with an obviously made-up name, which we can’t tell you where it is, caught on film which we can never show you.”
The problem JV, is that he is taking his claims to the government level and doing so very publicly. Can you imagine if he had actually began petitioning the US Government to protect sasquatch like he did in Canada? Yeah, Sylvanic and his Chronicles are a hoax, but not everyone knows this. Many also weren’t around when he first came onto the scene so they didn’t have the advantage of knowing this information before now. Therefore it is important. I take it you weren’t exactly familiar with his long term claims either?
And who is wasting time, sasquatch is a hobby and I’ve got a life. But what a fun hobby it is once you’ve had an encounter.
Thanks ME for the work in exposing this Todd person and what looks to be a complete fraud, there’s enough of these types that regardless of where, when or how they are operating they need to be called out!
ps) found this little bit here that directly connects both last names and his film co.:
“FREEDOMS CAGE – THE RED LIMIT BAND
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THE RED LIMIT IN ACTION. FILMED BY OUTSTANDING PRODUCTIONS TODD ROCKWELL (STANDING) AT STEW KIRKWOODS SOUND EXTRACTOR WHILE RECORDING THE … [more]
Rating:93%
Added: 1 year ago
Plays: 27,685
Comments: 2 ”
Link:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&ContributorID=190568
Hi Javier
My question is. Were the 3 email’s sent to you directly from the source?
ME,
How about sharing your encounters?
Steve,
Yes they were.
-Javier
Hi Jbondo.
Maybe in the appropriate article some other time but I don’t really want to detract from the subject at hand. I suspect the opportunity to share will come along. But I appreciate your interest.
Hey Todd, if there are any corrections you feel should be made, please let me know. I don’t want to make any incorrect assumptions based on the information that’s come to light. So please, know you are welcome to inform me of any inaccurate information. I’ve done my best at researching but I’m not perfect. I’m not like the “Best Bigfoot Expert On The Planet” either, but I do my best. Besides, I’m sure everyone would like to hear some kind of reply from you besides your boiler plate stuff. People really are hoping to hear real answers Todd. You do know that right?
And Louise/Tracey/Mark, your combined well choreographed support of Todd is dearly missed. Please, come back. There is so much for you to clear up too. Like how come your posting here using three different names?
ME,
Typically it would be done as a reader submitted story. I would never ask someone to add their own story onto an existing subject unless that was the theme. Maybe I should have worded it differently.
ME – Your comments are very interesting! I have also been following developments at Sylvanic since 2006, and there certainly do seem to be a lot of suspicious goings on surrounding Sylvanic based on what I’m reading above I can provide some information on the early days of Sylvanic. From my best estimation the first Sylvanic expedition was in February 2005, and the group included the following people:
Todd Standing
Cameraman (w/ 16mm camera)
Woodsman w/ guide dog
Woman (w/ 3.2 MP camera) – Todd’s little sister?
The dog and cameraman were left behind shortly after beginning the expedition. On Day 1 some photos were taken and hair samples were collected. On Day 2 the entrance to the cave was blocked.
The next expedition was around 6/2005 and consisted of these people:
Anthropologist (only lady) – had the flu
Biologist (Mike)
Original guide from Feb 2005
Paramedic/Firefighter (Trevor)
Todd Standing
On this expedition two people stayed over a week and found the domicile. Then, according to my best estimate a few weeks later another expedition was launched and this is when videos 2 and 3 were taken, but they only stayed 3 days instead of the planned 5. This is most of the information I have on the early days of Sylvanic.
Hope this helps.
Ed
Hi Ed,
The problem is, his chronology bounces around so much. Yeah I referenced his ‘two’ trips, and no doubt alleged Video 2 has no snow visible. And yeah, according to him in early statements, it was taken at the same location. Of course I didn’t say that Vid 1 was taken at the same time as Vid 2 or 3, with only a few day diff between the latter two however. And yes, Vid 2 & 3 is probably newer then Vid 1. At least there was no snow that I’ve seen in Vid 2 anyhow.
Have you read what I have over at BFRO?
http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=124725&threadid=2151193&page=2
Then there are old posts like this from Todd. This one at UnexplainedMysteries made back on ‘MAY 8 2005′. Note he again is talking about the size of the video as he has more recently.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=40201
From Toddster:
May 8 2005, 05:35 PM
Post #20
Group: Member
Posts: 29
Joined: 7-May 05
Member No.: 18256
Country: Not Selected
Gender: Male
What do you know about Sylvanic?
“I am so sorry about the quility of the video guys. I promise to have it upgraded from 6MB to at least 100MB by friday. You can see so much more, as you can imagine, on the original. But you are right, that is exactly what happened. The figure just Growled hit the tree and stood there for a second. While in the background you can hear something else running down that path behind the trees. Then when that tall dark figure does move, it goes from that spot where you can see it standing, to about 40 meters down that path in about 3 seconds, Where you can see snow fall of a tree as the enormus figure crashes by it. Our guide who stood there watching said he had never seen anything move that fast before.
And someone else asked what that yellow is near the end of the video. It is the color of the rock face wall. That is what i mean when i say i have never seen a place so beautiful before. The colors of the canyon wall ranged from that yellowish color to a deep amber red to dark copper blue. I think that might be why so many of the trees there are mutated looking. All the metalic elements in the water supply.”
And then in this Video 2 statement (foliage looks like Summer?) he says “This was my first actual close up sightings of one of these creatures…”
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=toddster45#p/u/1/gNob1az0Eis
I thought the trip during Video 1 was when he first saw a bigfoot? And why would anyone who just stumbles into this mystery admitting not knowing what they were, call it ‘Video 1′ already? That is, unless Video 2, et-cetera, were already in mind. And where is the rest of Video 1?
And who would go back with only with what is assumed to be the same 3.2 mp camera if he had spent “$4,000″ on that expedition? You only go with such a camera (not even a Sony Handycam?) if you need a pre-planned reason for why the footage won’t come out very clear.
Then of course he says this at UnexplainedMysteries on May 29th. Note the ‘past tense’ aspect of his description, and his Summer trip hasn’t even taken place yet:
Posted 29 May 2005 – 03:07 PM
“I want all of you people to know that all of your feedback, comments and quistions enspires me. Please keep it up, you all kick ass.
XSAS. To answer your first ? The reason i say i really dont know where it is ,is because a profesional guide took us there in the winter and how he got us there was nothing short of a miricle. Let me tell you when you are traveling 30miles northwest, then you take a left at one mountain, a right at the river go north at the cluster of trees… All the while looking for a 2foot by 2foot hole that goes under this chain of moutains. It is very difficult. And again i did it in the winter, for summer the whole look of the landscape is changed. Rock formations that where there before are now cover by trees with leaves and tall grass. Even besides all that the entrance into sylvanic is facing inward towards the mountain so if you walked right by it you would not see it. In other words if by chance you where to walk right past it you would never see it.”
If he’d only been there in the Winter at that point, how does he know what the entrance looks like in Summer? It’s still only late May in this statement?
If it only made chronological sense but its these little contradiction that show through time and time again! Man, I think I’m going to need a mental realignment after this is over.
Heya Todd, are ya still lurkin about?
I know everyone would still like to hear some kind of detailed response to the more contentious issues. You know, give us at least one thing that can be corroborated.
Maybe tell us the truth about the name ‘Sylvanic’. We know this isn’t a name given by the First Nations or Native Americans, despite your early posts claiming this. It is simply NOT of any aboriginal dialect. Of course realizing this, you eventually adapted and said it was a name given by the ‘locals’. Ya can’t keep doing those change-ups Todd, but really we are onto your adaptations. We just don’t want you to lose any more credibility.
So… here are some possibilities to explain the source for Sylvanic. Let me know if I’m warm one any one of them will ya? Others have wondered about a few of these too.
1) You got the name from ‘Sylvan Lake’ as many others have wondered. Except there are no adjacent mountain regions that carry any similar name. So what is your nationality Todd? I only ask because it could be relevant here.
2) You got it from the Sylvan from the ‘Chronicles of Narnia’. Hmm, note the word ‘Chronicles’, which you do like to use quite regularly don’t you?
3) Is Sylvanic named after someone close to you? Hmmm, I wonder… :^)
4) You simply got it from the Latin word Sylvan meaning forest or woods. Of course there is a reference to deities associated with it in Wiki isn’t there?
I also really do want to make sure if there is anything I am wrong about so I can make needed corrections. We really are looking for the truth here Todd and I’m making a good faith effort.
Of course it won’t make too much difference if you don’t provide some corroboration, but at least we will hear your side of things. Oh and many of us are looking forward to your next radio interview too.
Well, keep us up to date on your WEEKLY Expeditions. That is what you said on your last interview wasn’t it? Take care.
Well, there’s a lot of information here and a lot of questions, but also a lot of negative opinions, unfortunately. I have a favorable opinion of Todd Standing and Sylvanic for many reasons and have built that up over the years. Yes – some doubts have entered my mind at times over the years – I can only judge based on the very limited information that I was able to gather from the website and from emails from Todd and from the various interviews. I really wish I could have gone to one of the presentations when they were going on in early 2007, where I could have had a chance to talk to Todd in person, but I’m in Chicago, so that would have been a long trip for a 30 minute show. I may not even have been able to talk to him anyway – who knows?
If I were Todd (and I’m not!), I wouldn’t respond to this thread at this point at least. Even if I defended and explained everything that’s been posted, there would just be more questions and more accusations. I just wish there was a way for Todd to convince people that Sylvanic is real and his project is for real, but honestly I don’t see how that is possible without doing what he already stated which is producing a body. More video evidence, more hair samples, whatever, it will still be suspect.
Anyway, I really hope that Todd can still get out there and promote the species protection for bigfoot. I would dearly love to see more videos and find out more about what is going on with his research, so I’ll keep watching and waiting.
I suggest you take a shot at it. Nobody is here waiting to pounce. However, wouldn’t it be irresponsible to know something and not report it, even if it is negative? Like I said in the other thread, we’re not looking to gang up on anyone and would have been happy to join the Standing team. After all, many of us do believe there is a strong possibility that Bigfoot exists. Unfortunately it’s not working out that way and in the mean time people are donating time and money to help this guy out. If he is a fraud, do you think it’s fair to keep those people in the dark?
Except Ed Z, he can’t explain away 5 different identities on two different sites that have now been tied to him through his IP Address. He’s been busted. I suspect there are more attempts at influencing thread directions that he has also had something to do with. Its just a matter of site cooperation, finding mistakes and then connecting the dots.
ME’s evidence is pretty convincing to say the least, and yes, it is touched with opinions. I do say that Todd has a lot of explaining to do. The most damning evidence I can tell you is the fact that after ME started to shed some light on this situation, Standing (in any of his persona’s) has -not- returned to post or comment here. This to me says alot considering what ME has turned up.
I said it in the beginning, and I will say it again. He either puts up some credible evidence, or he has nothing. He can jump up and down saying he needs a corpse and I have to say that is a far fetched goal at this point, from how rigorous he says it is to get there. The small amount of evidence he has shown so far is insufficient, and he refuses to show any more because it might give up his secret spot.
It’s a catch-22 he has created, with every point covering another, and overlapping yet another. Very irritating if you want to believe, but for me it only masks the smell of BS…
ME – You’ve connected some dots that don’t belong together. My IP address is not connected with the one in Canada because I’m a different person (as I’m sure can be verified) – neither Todd Standing nor a shill. What’s the other site I’m supposed to have posted on? Anyway, you’re welcome to express your opinion of my thoughts on Todd Standing as an outside observer who’s only connection with Todd is that I’ve exchanged emails with him a couple times, and followed his activities on the web.
No no no, we were having fun, wasn’t of you anyhow. I can see how it would seem that way tho.
I’m not thanking anyone for exposing this hoax because frankly almost everyone understood immediately it was a hoax. I understand Bigfoot is a fun hobby, but even so I don’t think time should be wasted on the stuff that is most obviously made up.
If we argue against ”Sylvanic”, we don’t exactly look like level-headed skeptics. The story is so obviously made up that it makes us look like spacecakes for giving it any consideration at all.
Todd is full of crap. If you watch the one video where the alleged creature crouches down…………Todd says this was captured accidentally as the camera was moved. Funny how the animal has its back to the camera but crouches down the second the camera films it. Of course the creature is right in the very centre of the pic. Some accident!!! How did it know to crouch down if it had its back to the camera? Mmmmmm.
He says the government has sealed the entrance to Sylvanic. Huh? Ever hear of a helicoper.
On various sites he has described himself as a scientist and chemist but on his myspace page he says he pasturizes milk.
If he spent as much time trying to find bigfoot as he does self promoting………….he probably would of found the creature.
The guy is a phony. Move on everyone. Last person shut out the lights please
Two points need to be made here, after I have read all of this.
1: Bigfoot/Sasquatch is real.
2: The reason why people don’t come out with evidence is most likely because this exact type of reception.
The people who have never believed in these animals are the exact people who have never studied the evidence, never went out into the mountains to do their own research, or just plain all-out city people who have no clue about wildlife except what they see on TV.
And for those who DO know about wildlife and the forest who still don’t believe. They need to open their eye’s, because half the time they’re out in the woods, they’re not alone.
I’ve seen the video’s Todd Standing has, and I’m not sure if it’s real or not. A photo or video will never be accepted at verifiable evidence.
Science will only accept a body.
Todd needs a body.
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