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Paul Hellyer

Submitted by on January 9, 2014 – 4:20 PM8 Comments | 3,867 views

Why do people listen to Paul Hellyer?
Okay, he was an official of the Canadian government, even Minister of defense. But is he offering a single government document? OR does he just quote the popular media on the subject. I find the later to be the case, and yet he is practically revered for his willingness to be a voice for the believer community, and simply for having been a government minister everything he says is given weight as if it comes from government sources.

This video is a pretty good example of simply rehashing established stories, urban legends and conspiracy theories without offering single piece of evidence beyond that we should take his word, and that we should believe what he believes because he read it in a book, or a “chap” he talked with told him.

He was Canadian minister of Defense in 1960s, ruling over the country’s armed forces during the time of the Cold War — and when he retired he publicly stated that we are not alone in the universe, and some guests from outer space actually live here, on planet Earth. Is this fantasy? Is someone actually watching us? Today we ask the man who says UFOs are a serious business — Paul Hellyer

Published on Jan 5, 2014

I have addressed this before and am sure will again, but Hellyer brings it up so it bears saying.

They come from various places. For a long while I only knew about ones who came from different star systems – the Pleades, Zeta Reticuli and several other star systems…but in the past few months I have met [those] who made me aware that there are some in our star system, and that there are actually extraterrestrials who live on a planet called Andromedia, which is one of the moons of Saturn and that there are others on Venus and some on Mars and that they may be interacting between themselves – I suspect that they are because there is what is called a “Federation” of these people and they have rules. For example, one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently…

Here is a little astronomy lesson on the recognized moons of Saturn. Pay careful attention to the column on the farthest right which gives a a size comparison to our own moon.

Saturn’s major satellites, compared to Earth’s Moon

Name Diameter
(km)[30]
Mass
(kg)[31]
Orbital radius
(km)[32]
Orbital period
(days)[32]
Mimas 396
(12% Moon)
0.4×1020
(0.05% Moon)
185,000
(50% Moon)
0.9
(3% Moon)
Enceladus 504
(14% Moon)
1.1×1020
(0.2% Moon)
238,000
(60% Moon)
1.4
(5% Moon)
Tethys 1,062
(30% Moon)
6.2×1020
(0.8% Moon)
295,000
(80% Moon)
1.9
(7% Moon)
Dione 1,123
(32% Moon)
11×1020
(1.5% Moon)
377,000
(100% Moon)
2.7
(10% Moon)
Rhea 1,527
(44% Moon)
23×1020
(3% Moon)
527,000
(140% Moon)
4.5
(20% Moon)
Titan 5,150
(148% Moon)
(75% Mars)
1,350×1020
(180% Moon)
1,222,000
(320% Moon)
16
(60% Moon)
Iapetus 1,470
(42% Moon)
18×1020
(2.5% Moon)
3,560,000
(930% Moon)
79
(290% Moon)

Earth’s moon lacks the gravity to retain an atmosphere. Only one of Saturn’s moons even comes close to sufficient size to do so, Iapetus, which was discovered October 25, 1671 by Giovanni Cassini. Having been around the block a few times on this issue I am going to go ahead and address the possibility that there is a moon of Saturn being kept secret from us by the NWO/Alien conspiracy to hide the truth. Next largest of Saturn’s moons is Titan at just more than half the size of our moon, discovered March 25, 1655 by Christian Huygens. Smaller than that there is really little reason to consider an intelligent race living there, but if you like, the smallest object orbiting Saturn (ruling out bodies within the ring systems themselves as far too hostile) Mimas was discovered  September 17, 1789 by William Herschel. So for a conspiracy to be hiding a moon of the size to be reasonably habitable, that conspiracy would have to go back around four hundred years. When you consider that many of these discoveries were made with telescopes of lower quality and less magnification than is possible for the average backyard hobby astronomer, it seems unlikely such a conspiracy could be kept up for long.

Though only seven main stars are visible to the naked eye, the Pleiades is a stellar nursery where hundreds of young stars are forming. A large majority of these too young to have formed planetary systems, the oldest being 1/50th of the age of our sun. No life is coming from there.

Zeta Reticuli has been popularized by the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case, from a map that Betty hill recreated from one she reported seeing where she was taken. In any case, Zeta Reticuli is a binary system which severely reduces the odds of it having a “Goldilocks” zone to support life, and the pair are orbited by a debris disc that would make survival of any potential life unlikely.

Hellyer goes on to say that these aliens would give us a lot more technology

They are here among us and I’m not afraid because in most cases, as far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them. A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – led lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology and we could get a lot more too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully. But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet.

LED lights which Hellyer pronounces as one word like lead rather than how it is intended to be spoken, l,e,d. Hellyer being educated as an engineer, you might expect a little better. I have to wonder, as a previous minister of defense does he understand the prevalence of the microchip in military technology? You can barely name a piece of military equipment that does not contain or interact with microchips, all the way down to the camouflage patterns on battle uniforms. And Kevlar? Has the Canadian Minister of Defense not heard of kevlar helmets? Kevlar body armor? Or did alien races “light years” ahead of us in technology just give us these things and either not know how they could be used, or assume we would not figure out ways to use them?

So I ask again, why do the believers listen to a man who clearly is only repeating what he has read in books and been told by other believers?

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I would like nothing more than the proof of various cryptids, alien civilizations, even alien visitors to be found. But that proof will come only through rigorous science and objective analysis, and by holding evidence to the highest standards of scrutiny. Born in south eastern Pennsylvania, i have found myself at one time or another living in Chicago, Cleveland, Raleigh-Durham, on the island of Kaua'i and finally landed on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington State. I have turned my hand to various professions from early work in 3d graphics to historic building restoration, carpentry and log home building to working in a bronze art foundry on the WWII Veterans Memorial. Currently I am a writer, script writer and working for a non profit organization called Empowerment Through Connection which is involved in equine assisted therapy for veterans, at risk teens and women.

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  • Jason Sentelle

    What if those aren’t moons… but space stations?
    Seriously though, if they have the technology to fly here from another galaxy, would they need a moon big enough to support an atmosphere? Or would they be living in buildings/installations that would have artificial ones?

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

    If they have the capacity to fly here from another galaxy, why would they hide from a race with little better than stone age technology in comparison, on a little scrap of rock so far from the sun, and two planets away?

  • Jason Sentelle

    Prime Directive yo, and really I think if we came across an alien species that we were more advanced than, we would probably hide ourselves away from them to begin with… provided our intent wasn’t just out and out enslaving them.

  • rickequinox

    Kevlar?, created by aliens light years ahead of us?!!!, ha ha, that isn’t very advanced is it!!, what about anti-gravity technology, nuclear fusion, memory alloys, time warp engines, that’s the kind of thing we should be dealing with here!!

  • csi-tech

    I believe that aliens have at least had contact with our government and that there was some type of collusion. I was inadvertently exposed to their technology in the military. My perspective has changed forever. Our government is lying.

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

    What technology?
    I would honestly like to know, and if you would like to tell your story, we would be happy to cover it preserving your anonymity. Of course I will also do what research I am able to confirm or cast doubt on that story.

  • marijn

    thank you for your honest try to debunk Paul Hellyer’s story. But it still leaves me with the questions why he is telling it and why no one is actually checking it? there are so many clues about locations (groom lake) people involved (generals) that any american should be able to check his story instead of saying he is bullshitting based on hypothese. I am from the Netherlands and am deeply shocked by Paul Hellyer’s speech. I just want to know what is true and what is fantasy and because he is a minister i want a real investigation. Not just some opinions on the internet.
    ps. still thank you for bringing the subject up, it is important we keep talking about it

  • http://GhostTheory.com/ Henry

    I want to know what is true and what is BS as well.
    You have answered one of your own questions here, Hellyer is telling his story because he believes it, because having been a minister in government means people will listen to him, and because he can. And therein lies the problem as well. Because the believer community has long been desperate for government confirmation of what they believe, they fully embrace Hellyer, at least many do. Yet he offers no government sourced information, which is what they really want. He only reads the popular books on the subject, without, as you rightly point out

    “actually checking….” Some of his sources lead back to already debunked sources. He gets simple and easily confirmed facts absolutely wrong, demonstrates a complete lack of understanding in parts of his comments that he should be one of the best informed people on the planet about. IF he knows anything, he destroys any case he might have by not being more selective in what he says, so IF he knows anything he discredits that by rambling on about things he simply believes without substance to support them.